Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


sumi - Dec 01, 2004 3:37:57 pm PST #8687 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Did we know that Steven DeKnight is working on Smallville this year?

I wonder if that explains the very Nightmares like aspects of this episode.

Also, Chloe looks older and I can't think of why. . . is it her hair? Or the outfit?

And was that Tones on Tail playing under that ad for the WB's showing of The Wizard of Oz? "No More Tales to Tell". . . or am I confusing Tones on Tail for a later Daniel Ash/David J project? (Or do I mean Tones on Tale? I really can't remember.)


sumi - Dec 01, 2004 3:52:31 pm PST #8688 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Actually I meant Love and Rockets. They were the ones with "No new tale to tell" -- meanwhile, Tone on Tail = "Go" to me. And what is it with the Luthers and their penchant for white suits ?

Okay, Chloe, I think it was the outfit -- different outfit and she no longer looks older than she is.


Kalshane - Dec 01, 2004 6:58:50 pm PST #8689 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Did we know that Steven DeKnight is working on Smallville this year?

It's been commented on, particularly since he doesn't seem to be doing his ME-heritage proud. His most-recent episode was the witch-possession one, I believe, which most of us didn't care for.

Don't know about the Luthors and their white suits but Lex's nightmare was very much a callback to the psychic elderly lady's vision from way back in season 1.

All in all, I thought the episode was okay. Though I think there was too much major stuff happening as side-plots without any real explanation. Lionel's release and Jason breaking up with Lana. While I suppose the latter can kind of be explained by Jason's nightmare at the beginning of the episode, it still felt very sudden and head-scratchy.

Also, I'm getting annoyed with them flip-flopping with Lex. He used to be very ambiguous now it just seems like sloppy writing. In one episode he seems to be evil incarnate and the next he's all super noble.


sumi - Dec 01, 2004 7:22:34 pm PST #8690 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, I knew that Lex's nightmare was that future vision.

I didn't see who was in the limo that picked up Lionel -- was it Jason's mother ?


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2004 4:21:40 am PST #8691 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm ten minutes into Smallville.

    • Lana didn't see Jason, but went upstairs when he arrived, and so did he?
    • So Lex was supposed to be all "I'm here because I care about you, but this boyfriend thing weirds me out" in the hospital room?
    • "In my apartment"? Anywhere in particular in your apartment, Lana dear?
    • So they have the keys to a) Lana's apartment, b) Lexcorp?
    • Why is Lexcorp having meetings in their plant? Don't Lex and the HR guy have offices?
    • It's a neurological thing, Clark? Did Lana say that? There are a lot of physiological components to a panic attack


Pix - Dec 02, 2004 6:05:10 am PST #8692 of 10000
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

ita, I had many of the same issues. I also am getting increasingly annoyed by the whole "I'm about to tell someone....but NO, I can't!" t dramatic hand to brow angst. I feel like the show is getting increasingly repetetive and resorting to cliche more and more.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2004 6:39:53 am PST #8693 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Secret? Someone has a secret? Let's talk about secrets!

Look, people, Superman will have a secret identity. We don't need to be continually reminded he can't tell everyone. If Lex finds out, he will not remember. If anyone finds out in this show, pretty much, they won't remember. Or they'll move to Ohio, or wherever.

Still, Clark running desperately to Lex and offering him bodily fluids -- "Use me!" was a bit pleasing.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2004 7:38:30 am PST #8694 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Amanda agrees with Consuela:

I was like, 'OK, guys, we get it. She has the crush on her C.O., and it's deeper than a crush.' I'm making it sound trite, but it's not. There's a deep, deep love between the characters. There's a deep love she has for all the team, she just has more sexual feelings for O'Neill.

But, having said that, and knowing that it exists, and knowing that it can't go anywhere, can we not make her the chick? Can we move away from that and not be the whiny, pining chick?


Consuela - Dec 02, 2004 7:49:47 am PST #8695 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Can we move away from that and not be the whiny, pining chick?

Yes! t is validated


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2004 7:50:35 am PST #8696 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I agree ... except I don't remember her whining.