Vonnie: Hey, I've got a perfectly good grip of the canon, honest. I reserve the right to be saddened by plot developments that make J/D harder to do, though.

Katie: Dude, of course. I didn't mean to make a sweeping generalization. It's the tone and hyperbole in the more melodramatic posts that irritated me mostly, like "the show is DEAD to me because it killed my OTP and I shall pretend it has never happened/will never happen!!". Admittedly, I also have a huge button that gets pushed easily re. the fannish practice of canon-denial for the sake of a pairing agenda.

Yeah, I was in a crappy mood last night. Sorry to snap.

(I saw the post you're talking about, and, um, yes, it gets a big old *eyeroll*.)

The fandom--it is of the wacky. And I'm probably seeing the more reasonable side of collective fannish outrage. I don't have any S/J shippy people on my Flist, but I suspect that side is probably equally crazy-making.

In other news, I'm getting more and more tempted to download the new Atlantis episodes, 'cause I keep hearing snatches of conversation about how good they are. The show as it stood at the end of the hiatus, while fun to watch, hadn't gelled yet into a cohesive whole, and I'm dead curious to see if these new episodes have done to the show what 5x5 and "Sanctuary" have done for Angel.

Damn, I went from "Driven snow!" to "Oh, hell. What's one more spoiler or twenty?" to "Wanna download the unaired episodes!" in a couple of months.

Vonnie, seeing the eps early has nothing to do with being spoiled. You can't be spoiled by the stuff itself.

t /ita's spoiler philosophy

I have seen most of them, and I'm not sure if they're all better than the pre-hiatus ones, or it's just that the first one back was so much better, so I'm being kinder to the subsquent eps.

And while I'm on the topic -- Battlestar Galactica seems to have me hooked, and I didn't even love the miniseries.

I may be getting easy in my old age.

but I suspect that side is probably equally crazy-making.

Oh, yes. You should stop by Nos' LJ once in a while: she tracks the crazy for the rest of us. And mocks it freely; it's very entertaining.

I finally caught up on Spooks last night. Danny pretty. And why did no one ever tell me that Keeley Hawes was in Tipping the Velvet? I saw her on the cover of the dvd in Amoeba yesterday and had to blink.

it's just that the first one back was so much better, so I'm being kinder to the subsquent eps.

Hmmmm. Maybe I should downloade that first one back and wait for the others... I hear it's McKay- centric? With angst and character development?

Vonnie, seeing the eps early has nothing to do with being spoiled. You can't be spoiled by the stuff itself.

Heh. Yes, Jedi master.

I finally caught up on Spooks last night. Danny pretty.

Oooh. 3x07, right? I'm surprised by how much I'm loving the post-Tom episodes. I'd have had trouble with the accelerated Danny woobiefication if it weren't done with such flair--God, all that pretty suffering. I'm defenseless against the stuff. The final hug between Danny and Zoe in ep 3x06 was just heartbreaking. And 3x07 made up for the somewhat awkward set-up about Ruth in the ep with the choir, because the aftermath of Ruth's rescue, her cry to Danny to never be broken and bitter like that hacker guy, just wrecked me. God, I love Ruth. One good thing about Tom and Zoe leaving is that Ruth is getting more screentime and meatier characterization.

Vonnie, I don't remember it as being McKay centric. I was mostly struck by the badassification of Shep. Total smooth operator. Teyla continues to be really stupid, though.

I just watched Spooks 3x08, and I didn't so much love it. And then I went to the BBC discussion board, and bumped into a vague casting spoiler (a who, but no when). We'll see. They can buy me off with some more like 3x05 (is that the one with the cricket? ) and the one after.

Ha! Yeah, badassification is a good word for it. I'm mildly bothered by the "but he's a pilot" aspect of it all, but I give SG-1 a pass so I guess I need to do the same for Atlantis.

Plus, he prowls with a gun well.

There was good McKay, and decent Weir. ita's right that Teyla was kind of stupid, and I continue to be off-and-on annoyed by the mugging on Beckett, but Ford actually got to have a little bit of a personality so that was nice.

I watched 307 and 308 last night. 307 was the one with the hacker and 308 was the one with Andy Serkis as a very bad rock star and his Courtney Love-esque wife? Right? Clearly Adam and Fiona are getting set up to be the angsty field team, which makes me grumbly because they would never have a married couple working in the same unit. But then, as my friend F said, these are the world's worst spies. *g*

I am loving what they're doing with Ruth, though. It's nice to see her get some screen time.