Hey, preaching to the choir. I thought our Lady of the Perpetual Sea Breeze was the real deal until the Divine Miss J walked right through that door and right into my ass—which is where my heart is…physiologically. I could show you an x-ray.

Lorne ,'Time Bomb'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Vonnie K - Oct 19, 2004 5:41:25 am PDT #8102 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I would like to take this opportunity to say Phfffttt to the Rygel nay-sayers, because Ryg brought the funny, served a vital role in the plot, and had better character development than a lot of non-muppet characters (Sikozu, I'm looking at you.)

Also, I'd kill for a Rygel plush toy (with the little feet! And the hover-throne!)


Micole - Oct 19, 2004 6:13:41 am PDT #8103 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I adore Rygel. But lately I adore all the grumpy characters.

People have been commenting on how different Chiana was, and I've been thinking about it. I hope there's more Chi footage in the DVDs, since a lot of her character development seemed to take place in the gaps between scenes (and this was a major problem with S4), but I think her frantic comment "I don't like farls, I'm still a farl myself" is key, as is her discussion with D'Argo. (Was it farl? Nebari for "kid," anyway, clearly.) She probably still is a kid/late adolescent in terms of Nebari lifespan, but I think the change in body language is an attempt to convey a change in attitude--that slowly, without noticing it, Chiana's started growing up: she can make long-term commitments and keep them; she's aware of her flaws and can attempt to fix them as well as acknowledge them; she can make sacrifices for the good of other people; and she has a family.

I really loved the exchange with Rygel near the end, where she says, "D'Argo's dead. Do you think I care about you?" and Rygel says, quietly, "Yes." That's a world of change from the characters we first met, and I believe in it utterly.


Katie M - Oct 19, 2004 6:14:14 am PDT #8104 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

He did! They did right by Rygel. And they scared me when they shot him; I was all "no, don't kill the Muppet!"


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2004 6:17:10 am PDT #8105 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

(Was it farl? Nebari for "kid," anyway, clearly.)

"Narl." And the only reason I know that is because I had CC on, since I often don't understand some Farscapian vocabulary.


Sean K - Oct 19, 2004 6:26:56 am PDT #8106 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I got all weepy when D'Argo died, too. However.... Did anyone else take note of how, conveniently, we didn't actually see him die onscreen? I'm not saying he's not dead, but the writers left themselves a nice little loophole, just in case. Either way, the Scarrans have D'Argo's body.

I also, upon further reflection, like that John didn't die to save the universe. They cast him not as Christ figure, but as Harry Truman.


Katie M - Oct 19, 2004 6:32:33 am PDT #8107 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I did notice that, Sean, but then the planet blew up, so...


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2004 6:33:38 am PDT #8108 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh, they left a lot of things open -- D'Argo's body, who Grayza's baby daddy is, what happened to Sikozu after she got beat down by Scorpy, why Sikozu would get such a bad fucking haircut, etc.


Micole - Oct 19, 2004 6:49:18 am PDT #8109 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I'm not sure Sikozu's ending was supposed to be so open-ended -- there was that weird fragmentary scene with the Diagnosian's translator. I suspect more closure got cut when the mini was being edited for time.


Vonnie K - Oct 19, 2004 7:21:12 am PDT #8110 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I really loved the exchange with Rygel near the end, where she says, "D'Argo's dead. Do you think I care about you?" and Rygel says, quietly, "Yes." That's a world of change from the characters we first met, and I believe in it utterly.

Oh, man. I LOVED that moment. It's great when the writers give Rygel depth. I did feel Chiana's characterization felt a bit choppy--will be looking forward to the extended edition footage on DVD.

If ever they could get a chance to do another miniseries or a movie, they'd better not bring D'Argo back, because I will be PISSED.

Signed, still have issues with "Children of God".


Sean K - Oct 19, 2004 7:25:14 am PDT #8111 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Vonnie, I hope they don't bring him back, but I do hope that the Scarrans act like they have him alive, or at least use his body as some sort of angst-inducing bargaining chip.