This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Theodosia - Apr 14, 2004 2:47:38 am PDT #5136 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Robert Hewitt Wolfe was the producer who made the first season of Andromeda so interesting... and who got fired off the show, leading to its very sad decline. Other producers of note on DS9 were Rene Echeverria and Ira Steven Behr, so if you see their names popping up on other series, you'll probably be advised to check them out if they're got any executive power in series direction and conception. (Echeverria was involved in Now & Again, about the regular suburban guy who gets transplanted into a perfect weapon body while he pines for his wife and child, for instance.)


JenP - Apr 14, 2004 3:32:08 am PDT #5137 of 10000

OK. That was fun. shalott is a kick to read. For me, the J/D slash doesn't really ... fit? I dunno. I have trouble with the Jack part of it. He's just not all that slashable for me. Daniel on the other hand ... sure. I thought she did a nice job with Jack's voice especially, and it was, you know, an actual story. And the sex in front of the aliens one had some good funny going on.

Now, Angel and Smallville slash I can buy in all kinds of permutations, because, hell, that's what they're selling. Just ... Jack. I dunno. I can't get myself there. Which is fine. Enjoyed the read anyway.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 14, 2004 4:06:19 am PDT #5138 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I remember reading a longass screed from a guy who worked on DS9 and then moved over to Voyager when DS9 ended, and was simply appalled at the difference.

That was Ron Moore.

Was he with Voyager first season? And did he jump ship (or get the axe) pretty much around the same time? Because that would explain why Voyager started out OK, and then quickly started sucking as any inter-personal confrontations got swept under the rug of warm-fuzzies and temporal distortions.

And total wrod, Matt, on why that didn't happen. Can you imagine how the ME folks would have handled a similar scenario, especially anyone from the House of HoYay aka Angel?


Vonnie K - Apr 14, 2004 5:43:03 am PDT #5139 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

The 7pm airings look like straight season one

Whew. I checked my TiVo to-do list before I left for work this morning, and you're right. The weekday run is early season 1, with the weekend airing being the two-parters. Now, the dilemma is, to watch or not to watch the weekend episodes despite the chronological wackiness? Hmm.

I have trouble with the Jack part of it. He's just not all that slashable for me. Daniel on the other hand ... sure.

This is where I was when I first started reading SG fic. I just could not see Jack as anything but unwaveringly straight. But then, I hung around the slashers for a year, and now, I kind of see the subtexts enough to enjoy reading J/D. Truth be spoken though, I'm still thrilled the most with friendshippy & plotty gen with good team interactions and the subtext remaining squarely sub, but that's just me.

BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, be sure to check out shalott's Silence of the Lambs vid, "Uninvited", which you can download from her site. Beautiful, creepy, mesmerizing, and guaranteed to give you the major wiggins. The last shot of the vid kills me in a way that makes me uncomfortable to dwell on it for too long.


Jeff Mejia - Apr 14, 2004 6:43:40 am PDT #5140 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Was he with Voyager first season? And did he jump ship (or get the axe) pretty much around the same time? Because that would explain why Voyager started out OK, and then quickly started sucking as any inter-personal confrontations got swept under the rug of warm-fuzzies and temporal distortions.

He didn't join until the second or third season of Voyager, because there was overlap between the end of DS9 and the start of Voyager. Remember, both shows had tribute episodes to TOS for the 30th anniversary of Star Trek. DS9 came up with the outstanding "Trials and Tribbilations", while Voyager came up with the epsiode that flash-backed to Captain Sulu and his ship Excelsior, although the episode was entirely in Tuvok's mind.


esse - Apr 14, 2004 6:49:37 am PDT #5141 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I loved Trials and Tribbilations. I think I even bought the novelisation of it.


Consuela - Apr 14, 2004 6:49:46 am PDT #5142 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

So Ron Moore and Robert Wolfe both worked on DS9, Wolfe went on to Andromeda, Moore went on to Voyager, and neither had a very good experience? Okay.

Just ... Jack. I dunno. I can't get myself there. Which is fine. Enjoyed the read anyway.

Well, yeah. Although the last few scenes in Meridian kinda get me there, at least enough to buy it for something as well-written as Reveille. Much of the rest, not so much.

If you like the plotty stuff, JenP, Rheanna has a couple of kickass stories on her site: good characterizations and creative concepts.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2004 7:19:38 am PDT #5143 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There's a J/D story that spins off Shades Of Grey -- it was recced on this board, but I don't remember the title. I thought it slashed quite well.


Dana - Apr 14, 2004 7:47:36 am PDT #5144 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

If Shades of Gray is the one where Jack is undercover, you're probably thinking of Anna S.


Theodosia - Apr 14, 2004 8:04:19 am PDT #5145 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

A Globe & Mail story about the filming of Paul Gross's next big project, H2O, a Canadian political thriller-miniseries. Leslie Hope plays his wife....