Sounds like Angel.
Yeah, pretty much.
I'm having an easier and easier time mapping Wes to Dick (Robin I/Nightwing), but I think that could be a sign of obsessions transfering and mixing in the transfer.
She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face.
Willow ,'Help'
Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
P.M. Marc - Apr 04, 2004 10:22:20 am PDT #4910 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Consuela - Apr 04, 2004 10:26:40 am PDT #4911 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
(Still stuck on Stargate silliness)
Oh! English-speaking aliens!
WTF is up with that, anyway? I mean, every frelling planet they go to, everyone speaks English! But they write in ancient Phoenician, or Welsh, or something. HUH?
What's the deal?
Nutty - Apr 04, 2004 10:32:32 am PDT #4912 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
without the extended network of people he cares about despite himself, it would get hella boring real quick. They keep him on the edge of humanity. Without them, he'd have crossed over a long time ago.
This may inform why I am so fond of origin stories for the guy. Then again, also the noir-y ones, because noir is all about crossing over that edge.
As for Stargate. Which would you rather: Vancouver actors say "aboot" on every planet, or Vancouver actors say "plxtmagrablke" or similar? Then to show that the Really Are From Far Away, we give them hieroglyphs. Champollion would be so proud.
Consuela - Apr 04, 2004 10:36:52 am PDT #4913 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Vancouver actors say "aboot" on every planet, or Vancouver actors say "plxtmagrablke" or similar? Then to show that the Really Are From Far Away, we give them hieroglyphs. Champollion would be so proud.
Um. So... not even a handwave? At least we got handwaves in Farscape and Star Trek...
::sigh::
§ ita § - Apr 04, 2004 10:40:04 am PDT #4914 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Not every planet. Abydos had language issues.
Which doesn't make it even a little better.
Suela -- in the making it better or worse camp, they have acknowledged it in Wormhole X-Treme. Not addressed it, just acknowledged it as they poked at most of their inconsistencies in that hour.
Frankly, I like the lack of a handwave. Because the half-assed attempts on FS and ST irritate me with their holes. When there's no garment there, it's harder to nitpick.
Vonnie K - Apr 04, 2004 10:41:01 am PDT #4915 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Heh. I have no earthly clue whatsoever as to why the aliens speak English on distant planets. Even if they were descended from humans who spoke English (and that's a big if), after several thousand years, you'd think they'd have developed a language of their own. As for the hieroglyphics? Damned if I know.
Basically, it's one of the things about the show that make you go, "WTF?" then handwave like a mad person. Stargate has lots of things like that. That's why, while we love the show, we never forget to mock it in the same breath.
Edited to say, handwave on the part of the viewers, not the writers. I don't think they ever went into any length to explain why the aliens spoke English.
Katie M - Apr 04, 2004 10:50:25 am PDT #4916 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Edited to say, handwave on the part of the viewers, not the writers. I don't think they ever went into any length to explain why the aliens spoke English.
Depends on who you get on what day. Occasionally they try to say things like "no no, they're speaking other languages, it's just that we don't show it!" Which, you know, er, whatever.
Consuela - Apr 04, 2004 10:53:57 am PDT #4917 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
When there's no garment there, it's harder to nitpick.
I dunno. When there's no garment there, I watch, gobsmacked, as they prance around in the altogether, cellulite jiggling. It's not like I can unfocus my eyes and ignore the minor infelicities. The whole thing is on display.
But YBMV. ::shrugs::
Occasionally they try to say things like "no no, they're speaking other languages, it's just that we don't show it!" Which, you know, er, whatever.
That's pretty funny. Almost acceptable, and yet, not.
§ ita § - Apr 04, 2004 10:57:23 am PDT #4918 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Some things I can accept as convention. The omission of the entire deal is one of those.
But if you bring it into the story, I want something babelfish quality at the very least, otherwise I sit there wondering why we only get some Klingon words, or just really confused about what I'm hearing and if I'm supposed have microbes too.
DCJensen - Apr 04, 2004 10:58:26 am PDT #4919 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.
It's either come up with a device you have to explain to everyone you meet or have everyone speak english. This isn't Stargate: Language Geek Technical Manual. The gate is a plot device for story. Every planet can't have language issues or every single episode would get bogged down dealing with language.
By not mentioning it, the show is easily syndicated and dubbed for any language on earth, like the original Trek was.
I did like the fact they brought up the language thing in Episode 100, "Wormhole Xtreme." (Along with a bunch of other stuff)
"Bigger! Big-er!"