And now, this season? Shifted right back to arc heavy, but this time with a focus on kissing his ass.

Yeah, that's what I didn't get last night. I was wondering why the hell there was an arc after everything Sorbo and the other PTB there had said against them. (Although maybe the move to SciFi changed their minds about it. I have to admit, it is hard to follow an arc on a syndicated show when your local station is moving it to a new time slot every other week. We got the last season of DS9 at 1:00 am Monday mornings. Most of the time.)

"The World Turns All Around Her" first aired last November. The switch back to arc was made a long time ago. Not sure when they committed to the Sci Fi Channel.

then midway through season 3

Season 2.

Watched a little bit of it last night. The whole Tyr thing is much less impressive with the new hair.

Also, is Lisa Ryder leaving the show? And since when does Harper hate Tyr? I almost needed to go off and read The Recreation of the Warrior to console myself.

So I wanted to make a brief apology to the Boxed Set denizens, Stargate fans, Andromeda fans, and ita in particular.

When I was making my arguments in the Lightbulb thread about having a pop culture core focus of b. org, and raised the issue of a general TV thread, I used Boxed Set as an example of a series of compromises which had created an ungainly but unacknowledged genre TV thread.

I went back and edited one of my posts:

"Grandfathering" in this instance becomes the handwave. Stargate is not mentioned in the thread title or header [edit: okay, it's in the header only] or slug. Previously "grandfathering" referred to Threads We Had At WX With Their Own Culture. Now we're using it to institutionalize what was basically thread-drift.

edited to change "you're" to "we're" because I'm talking more about the group decision that lead to Boxed Set, not just how ita uses it.

Closer to the actual point I wanted to make were these comments:

Let me just add again, I'm not that hot about this topic. (Though it may sound like it.) The inconsistency bugs me and I'm trying to point out what I think are the logical problems with arguing against something like a general TV thread, when you've got (what I consider) an elephant in the living room.

Farscape/due South/Smallville is the defacto genre TV thread. The most active discussion there is about Stargate. I don't really see the virtue in pretending that it isn't a general discussion thread for science fiction/fantasy TV. (I consider due South Magical Realism, or a subset of fantasy.)

But I think in trying to make my point, I came off like a whiny bitch implying "Well, everybody over there is fudging the rules to get what they want and I'm not getting what I want."

Which I did not mean to imply. Nor is it something I believe. It's really just the elephant-in-the-living-room factor I mentioned above.

Anyway, I'm sorry for using this thread as an example in a pointed way, and apologize for any implication of weaseling. I got no beef with Boxed Set.

Oh, no hurt feelings, Hec. Completely reasonable points, once I got what your point was.

Also, is Lisa Ryder leaving the show? And since when does Harper hate Tyr?

Ah. That episode. No, she didn't leave the show after that (though I suppose she could be in future; I finally gave up completely, and am very proud.) I never really understood what everyone was so pissed at Tyr about; theoretically I believe he destroyed the Commonwealth (it's okay, it got rebuilt over the summer hiatus) but I wasn't at all clear on how. And I did see that episode, honest!

Season 2.

Was that when Hewitt Wolfe got fired? I know Zack was there through much of S3, so I figured it was later on.

I never really understood what everyone was so pissed at Tyr about

They were pissed at him for being strong, determined and beautiful.

They were pissed at him for being strong, determined and beautiful.

The key point being that someone else possessing those virtues pointed out their lesser presence or absence altogether in Dylan.

Oh, no hurt feelings, Hec. Completely reasonable points

ITA. Also, I hope it was obvious that this

Bring it on, Hec ...

was in good fun ... you know, fake fighter feint.

Topical: I saw the pilot and next episode that is on the S1 Farscape Disc 1. Preaching to the choir, I know, but Ben Browder could not possibly be more adorable. Even if he tried really, really hard. I loved the way he played the wonder of "Holy crap. Definitely not Kansas. Holy crap. Aliens. Dude, I'm on another planet ... cool ... oh, right, holy crap, vengeful space police." Commentaries are entertaining, too. 'S all I got for now.

The key point being that someone else possessing those virtues pointed out their lesser presence or absence altogether in Dylan.

Which is why I'm so surprised they got away with The Unconquerable Man. Even though there were certain plot requirements, Bakic was much better then than he has been as chief buttlicker this season.

Preaching to the choir, I know, but Ben Browder could not possibly be more adorable.

No, not more adorable, but he gets hella sexier when the leather pants arrive. IJS.

Sounds like you're gonna like it, JenP. Keep us posted, and we'll try not to spoil you (too much).

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