Aren't they something. They're like butterflies, or little pieces of wrapping paper blowing around.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Katie M - Mar 19, 2004 2:07:06 pm PST #4601 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

The way things are with Sam and Jack right now, I could see them winding up with something similar to the relationship between Zoe and Mal. I get the feeling that having one of them wind up with someone else would end up taking a lot of confusion out of their relationship.

*blink*

Huh.

You know, I'd never looked at them that way before, but that... could work. Interesting comparison.


Vonnie K - Mar 19, 2004 2:13:01 pm PST #4602 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Tragic Love Will Never Be

The thing I like most about their relationship is that they didn't dwell on this all "Woe, woe is me!", like some middle-aged Romeo/Juliet or Buffy/Angel; they were grown-up folks with a lot heavier responsibilities than toward their own happiness. They weighed things in, they (reluctantly) acknowledged their feelings, there was no gnashing of teeth or rending of clothes, and they said, "well, it won't work; let's be sensible" then buried it way the hell down where it belonged. Even when it got dredged up (very infrequently) in later seasons, there was no moony-eyedness and virtually no pining. I dig that.

I don't know how I'd feel about Jack and Sam getting together at the end of the series. They don't have much in common, and at this point, I think they love each other more as friends and comrades-in-arms rather than as potential lovers.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2004 2:14:39 pm PST #4603 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But I don't think Sam's Wash would have the same surety (he's jealous, but not honestly of the love, just the attention, I think) that Zoe's Wash does.

"Take me, sir. Take me hard." might just play out wrong.

Huh.

Okay, what I think I'm saying is that Mal and Zoe don't have unresolved sexual tension. Sam may very well meet and fall for someone and marry them and all that ... but I think it'd take a large man indeed to see her and Jack in crisis and not feel mega "War Stories."


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2004 2:15:26 pm PST #4604 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know how I'd feel about Jack and Sam getting together at the end of the series

Casual sex. One time. For me.

And then "Huh. Well, that was fun. Want pizza?"

And no more sex.


Katie M - Mar 19, 2004 2:19:54 pm PST #4605 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

The thing I like most about their relationship is that they didn't dwell on this all "Woe, woe is me!", like some middle-aged Romeo/Juliet or Buffy/Angel; they were grown-up folks with a lot heavier responsibilities than toward their own happiness.

I kinda feel like they've slipped on that this season somewhat, though. (I may also just be overly sensitive. Wouldn't be the first time.) To be fair, when the season was blocked out they were expecting Lost City to be the series finale, so that's not entirely surprising.


Vonnie K - Mar 19, 2004 3:52:12 pm PST #4606 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I kinda feel like they've slipped on that this season somewhat, though. (I may also just be overly sensitive. Wouldn't be the first time.)

No, you're right. They needled the whole ship thing more often this season than seasons 5 and 6. I loved the way it was handled in "Grace", but the snide reference to possible J/S romance in both "Heroes" and "Inauguration" annoyed the hell out of me. Talk about unsubtle. The nice shoulder-hug Jack gave Sam in that... whatzthename, the 'Anubis' ninja robot chasing after Sam' episode--that was nice though.

Casual sex. One time. For me.
And then "Huh. Well, that was fun. Want pizza?"

Heh. Oh yeah. This would totally work for me. They'd decide, while sex was good, they like each other and their own independence too much to settle down with a long term relationship and mess things up. After that, there would be a lot of hanging out with the entire gang at Jack's house.


Katie M - Mar 19, 2004 3:58:36 pm PST #4607 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

The nice shoulder-hug Jack gave Sam in that... whatzthename, the 'Anubis' ninja robot chasing after Sam' episode--that was nice though.

Frankly, I'm enough of a sucker for Jack-hugs that they can slip J/S right past my barriers that way. I'm all "oh no, they're doing it agai--aww. Look at that! Man, Jack gives the best hugs. Wait, what was I saying earlier?"


JenP - Mar 19, 2004 4:08:25 pm PST #4608 of 10000

I dunno. I don't think I'd mind if it ended with her finally taking him up on an offer to go on a fishing trip. If, you know, Jack retires or whatever. And then Teal'c and Daniel, utterly oblivious, invite themselves along. And so you'd a get a meaningful ... curses, foiled again look exchange.


Katie M - Mar 19, 2004 4:18:49 pm PST #4609 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Ah, see, that would drive me nuts, because it puts Jack and Sam on the inside and Daniel and Teal'c on the outside.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2004 4:36:11 pm PST #4610 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They could totally wrap up with her accepting a fishing trip though.

And Daniel and Teal'c going along knowing damned well that the two of them were trying to run off for nookie.