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As usual is the case when I watch the show, after "Into the Fire", I told myself, "What the hell, let's watch another one". So I'm watching "Seth", and in comes the head of ATF with whom the team butts head in the compound, and it's played by the same guy who reluctantly squired around Bregman and his crew in "Heroes". They had same guy play two different characters on the same show! That feels like cheating somehow.

Also, Teal'c just told his Setesh guard joke, and nobody laughed at it! Poor Teal'c. I thought the joke was pretty funny.

Also, Teal'c just told his Setesh guard joke

Loved that. And you have a good, good eye re: the doubling up.

The Setesh joke was hilarious.

Uh, I'm not sounding like those scary people in that salon article, aren't I?

No no, you sound happy and enthusiastic. Totally different vibe from Daniel Is The Second Coming Of Christ.

They had same guy play two different characters on the same show! That feels like cheating somehow.

Remember, Seth is also Daniel's father from Gamekeeper.

up there with the one Jack gives Daniel in season 2 opener ("Space monkey!". Aw.)

Awww!

They are awfully cute together.

Remember, Seth is also Daniel's father from Gamekeeper.

Aeeiii. I did not know this. That strikes me highly wrong somehow.

I had fun looking at the character tropes in Gus' wiki last night, and they actually have an entity for this phenomenon: YouLookFamiliar. I know TXF did this with Nick Lea, who was a guest star on the show before taking on the role of Krycek, but last night was the first time I spotted this in SG.

I see that there is also a new entry for TheWoobie in the wake of Daniel discussion yesterday. I dunno--I always think of woobiefication with a bit of negative connotation, e.g. the fans are blind to the flaws of their woobie and would overract to the slightest hints of criticism, no matter how valid, about the character. Also, the infantilization implicated in the term kind of ooks me out a bit, like the fan in question wants to breastfeed and have sex with the character at the same time. Eh, what can I say? I just dislike fannish lingos in general.

As someone who has a couple woobies, I have no urge to breastfeed any of them, and I haven't yet met a character with no flaws. Okay, perhaps Zoe, but she's kinda the uber-anti-woobie.

Well, it's not the character trope itself, but the term. I'm pretty sure Tom Quinn in MI-5 meets the definition for me, especially wrt the hurt/comfort urge the character inspires. But "woobie", well, it's a baby blanket. When I hear the term, I automatically think the fan wishes to regress a complex and otherwise interesting character into an infant to be coddled and protected from the big bad world. It's the baby-talkish-sounding name that causes the reflexive cringing, above anything else, really. If there was another, non-cringy word that describes the characteristics, I'd probably be OK with it. YWMV.

There are plenty of people out there who agree with you, Vonnie, w/r/t the "infantilization" of fandom.

I just kind of like the way woobie sounds.