In the comics, the Martian Manhunter was actually present when Clark crashed on Earth, and kept tabs on him afterward.

I thought that the Martian Manhunter was teleported to Earth in the '50s, after Superman was already a presence in Metropolis. The new series The New Frontier by Darwyn Cooke goes over the dawn of the Silver Age, and the most recent issue showed the Manhunter arriving on Earth.

I thought that the Martian Manhunter was teleported to Earth in the '50s, after Superman was already a presence in Metropolis. The new series The New Frontier by Darwyn Cooke goes over the dawn of the Silver Age, and the most recent issue showed the Manhunter arriving on Earth.

Sorry. Post-crisis. Manhunter in the 50s, Superman landed on Earth thirty something years ago.

Sorry. Post-crisis. Manhunter in the 50s, Superman landed on Earth thirty something years ago.

Ah, that explains it. New Frontier is "pre-Crisis" continuity.

Of course, I have my grumbles about post-Crisis Superman continuty (*cough*gestationchamber*cough*), but who doesn't?

(I have to say, from a narrative standpoint, that trying to reconcile 50 years of continuity is the dumbest thing comics writers ever did. Everything I've seen about Crisis on Infinite Earths says that they managed to piss off dedicated comics readers, and they only baffled and irritated casual comics consumers like me. Not a way to expand the market, yo.)

(People. I will read 15 different versions of Batman's origins and regard them as multiforms of a myth. But if you try to reconcile them all -- it's like pissing away the magic of the myth that drew me in in the first place.)

Crisis didn't reconcile. It eliminated.

Me, I liked it. It was very emotional. But they didn't nuke anything I was attached to.

Wait -- when did they redo Donna Troy's origin? That did bother me.

I was watching the two "It's a Wonderful Life" episodes in which he was apparently already dead.

Congrats. You managed to trip over the series finale.

Melina Clark had an excellent new Highlander vid in the vid show.

Really disliked Crisis, although it wasn't nearly as bad as the two (three?) resets of the LSH mythos that they've done.

Speaking of which...

But that's not what I want. What I want is the Legion of Super Heroes.

I would actually watch Smallville for this. I would even download the ep for posterity. (And I had exactly the same reaction as Victor when ita misspoke.)

Everything I've seen about Crisis on Infinite Earths says that they managed to piss off dedicated comics readers

They killed off Black Canary in that fiasco, didn't they? Of course, they've probably brought her back some other way since.

Me, I liked it. It was very emotional. But they didn't nuke anything I was attached to.

Same here. I'm actually rather fond of it, and I like the result of a world where Superman and Batman are actually a later generation of heroes, and the JSA fought in WWII. It's had its headaches, but a lot of it has been fun.

Wait -- when did they redo Donna Troy's origin? That did bother me.

That was later. In the reboot, Wonder Woman didn't arrive from Paradise Island until much later--in fact, after the crisis. Diana's mother was the Wonder Woman of WWII (although that's VERY recent) and Donna Troy's origin was rewritten 73 times, and all that's certain is that she's A.) A magical twin of Wonder Woman, who was stolen away early; B.) Debuted publically considerably BEFORE Wonder Woman, and C.) Is now dead.

They killed off Black Canary in that fiasco, didn't they?

Not at all. They killed Supergirl, and the one around now is a different one (although I'm not following it) and Black Canary was retconned into Wonder Woman's spot as a JLA founder.

Dana, what kind of deal?

This being the only thread I actually caught up on, I'll lighten to say, hey, folks! Also, Stargate pissed me off with the ridiculous unnecessary mislead, but totally broke my heart. Sniff.