I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly is a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Katie M - Jan 09, 2004 4:27:26 am PST #2815 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

You'd have to ask someone who followed B5 - I tried it a couple of times and bounced off.


§ ita § - Jan 09, 2004 4:33:07 am PST #2816 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I swear I followed it, but I don't remember a thing.

Definitely not an acolyte.


Nutty - Jan 09, 2004 4:46:12 am PST #2817 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

How was JMS in that regard?

My memory of B5 is that JMS was kind of pugnacious about claiming he had a plan, and had always had a plan, and yes that too was part of the plan. There were a couple of episodes that tied themselves in Gordian knots to be canon-compliant (the whole B-squared thing), but they were indeed canon-compliant.

For things like ship-speed, well, JMS had a thing for killing off minor characters with all pomp and tragedy, so there's more than one instance of, e.g., somebody being stranded in a starfury and eventually making it back to the main ship, only to die of radiation poisoning. Right after he explains the key plot point he witnessed.

(JMS had an escape-clause though: whenever something snazzy and potentially logic-busting needed to happen, he had the Minbari or the vacuum-cleaner guy do it. They were sort of his own personal flabotinum.)


Consuela - Jan 09, 2004 6:56:54 am PST #2818 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

whenever something snazzy and potentially logic-busting needed to happen, he had the Minbari or the vacuum-cleaner guy do it. They were sort of his own personal flabotinum

Bwah! Good point.

I would say that B5, of all of them, was the most hung up on plot-point continuity. And they jumped through hoops to keep the continuity even when outside factors intervened (i.e. the network demanding Sinclair be replaced with a bigger name actor or Claudia Christian failing to re-up for season 5). Somehow it all held together.

I had my issues with B5 (dialog sucked, and half the actors were only barely competent), but they did their best to keep it all understandable. Besides, Neil Gaiman wrote an episode! (which I've never seen, alas)


P.M. Marc - Jan 09, 2004 7:25:36 am PST #2819 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I would say that B5, of all of them, was the most hung up on plot-point continuity. And they jumped through hoops to keep the continuity even when outside factors intervened (i.e. the network demanding Sinclair be replaced with a bigger name actor or Claudia Christian failing to re-up for season 5). Somehow it all held together.

He had a continuity bible, did JMS, or so Gaiman claims when telling the tale about the episode he wrote.

IIRC, most of the problems with S5 involved (Pete of Reason could detail it better than I) the fact that they weren't sure they'd get it, so they had to cram 90% of the series arc climax into S4, as otherwise things would be left dangling hard in the event of cancellation.


Madrigal Costello - Jan 09, 2004 7:47:29 am PST #2820 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

I've seen a few little errors, like Carter's address changing within an episode, Daniel using an archeological term incorrectly, some confusion about the doctor's rank - but it tends to be the more minor stuff.


Jars - Jan 09, 2004 10:09:32 am PST #2821 of 10000

Daniel using an archeological term incorrectly,

Oh, more than once, believe me. This is just one of the reasons I can only enjoy Stargate whilst wearing my "It's only a TV show" hat.


Madrigal Costello - Jan 09, 2004 10:12:32 am PST #2822 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

Even during the early days of the X-Files they had Scully stick a rectal thermometer in a kid's mouth, ER fucked up with the Babinksy reflex for years - at least Daniel remembers that he's an archeologist and usually handle that stuff, or at least the linguistics.


Katie M - Jan 09, 2004 10:17:04 am PST #2823 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Even during the early days of the X-Files they had Scully stick a rectal thermometer in a kid's mouth, ER fucked up with the Babinksy reflex for years - at least Daniel remembers that he's an archeologist and usually handle that stuff, or at least the linguistics.

"What am I, a psychologist?" --Late-season Mulder, paraphrased

"AUGH!" --Approximately ten thousand X-Files fans


Frankenbuddha - Jan 09, 2004 10:18:32 am PST #2824 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Approximately ten thousand X-Files fans

I think you may have underestimated to the power of 100, at least.