Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 10, 2003 8:03:33 am PDT #190 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I can't really explain it with TNG, when I first watched it I was totally into the episodes. Yay and good. But looking back and watching them again, I like them but they don't have the same emotional impact.

This is me. Plus, I found out that I don't really like most of TNG's characters.

I'm still imagining how cool it would have been to have Dax back as a man. Whole new dynamic.

Oh hell yeah. Worf would have had some severe issues with that. I don't think Sisko would have though, since he always referred to Jadzia as "Old man" - they had such a great friendship, too.

And Bashir could still have ended up with his twu wuv - Garek.


JenP - Sep 10, 2003 8:12:45 am PDT #191 of 10000

Worf would have had some severe issues with that.

Comic goldmine, that.

And Bashir could still have ended up with his twu wuv - Garek.

He really was all about the man-crushes, wasn't he? What a cutie.


Sean K - Sep 10, 2003 8:13:35 am PDT #192 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

But looking back and watching them again, I like them but they don't have the same emotional impact.

This is me. Plus, I found out that I don't really like most of TNG's characters.

Me too, strangely. I was full of the TNG love when it was on, but whenever I check which episodes are playing on Spike (nee TNN), even the really good ones are not enough to make me watch them again.

And I think I still like most of the characters, but I've grown to loathe what was done with them.

Heavy groundwork was laid during the series for Data to evolve his own genuine, natural emotions. Multiple episodes dealt with it, and hinted that Data would acheive them on his own. I felt this was a wonderful and moving story line.

They make the FIRST MOVIE, and just permanently fuse the emotion chip into his head, and years worth of work, and everything that made Data interesting, flew right ot the frelling airlock.

I've never forgiven Berman and Braga for that.


§ ita § - Sep 10, 2003 8:15:42 am PDT #193 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But then they killed him, Sean, so ... it's starting from scratch.


Sean K - Sep 10, 2003 8:17:09 am PDT #194 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Was that in the last movie? I never saw it.

Don't worry about spoiling me, I don't care any more, although I may have to go rent it tonight, if it's out on video yet.


Wolfram - Sep 10, 2003 8:23:15 am PDT #195 of 10000
Visilurking

But then they (whited out), Sean, so ... it's (whited out).

Ack!

Edited to despoil, but I can't do whitefont in quotes.


§ ita § - Sep 10, 2003 8:24:33 am PDT #196 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I whited that out, because I realise I thought the movie came out yonks ago. I apologise strenuously for all the people I spoiled.

More details: They did indeed kill him, but they found a proto-Data, so wotsisname still has a job.


brenda m - Sep 10, 2003 8:24:57 am PDT #197 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Heavy groundwork was laid during the series for Data to evolve his own genuine, natural emotions. Multiple episodes dealt with it, and hinted that Data would acheive them on his own. I felt this was a wonderful and moving story line.

They make the FIRST MOVIE, and just permanently fuse the emotion chip into his head, and years worth of work, and everything that made Data interesting, flew right ot the frelling airlock.

Spike and the soul, anyone?


Dana - Sep 10, 2003 8:29:14 am PDT #198 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

And why didn't they have early 19th-Century Methos more often?

An excellent question. Early 19th-Century Methos had adorable floppy hair. Early 19th-Century Methos entertained the idea of threesomes.


Wolfram - Sep 10, 2003 8:34:42 am PDT #199 of 10000
Visilurking

Okay I whited out what you whited out in my quote for obvious reasons.