Okay, I whited that out, because I realise I thought the movie came out yonks ago. I apologise strenuously for all the people I spoiled.
More details: They did indeed kill him, but they found a proto-Data, so wotsisname still has a job.
Wash: So, two days in a hospital? That's awful. Don't you just hate doctors? Simon: Hey. Wash: I mean, present company excluded. Jayne: Let's not be excluding people. That'd be rude.
'Ariel'
Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
§ ita § - Sep 10, 2003 8:24:33 am PDT #196 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
brenda m - Sep 10, 2003 8:24:57 am PDT #197 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Heavy groundwork was laid during the series for Data to evolve his own genuine, natural emotions. Multiple episodes dealt with it, and hinted that Data would acheive them on his own. I felt this was a wonderful and moving story line.
They make the FIRST MOVIE, and just permanently fuse the emotion chip into his head, and years worth of work, and everything that made Data interesting, flew right ot the frelling airlock.
Spike and the soul, anyone?
Dana - Sep 10, 2003 8:29:14 am PDT #198 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
And why didn't they have early 19th-Century Methos more often?
An excellent question. Early 19th-Century Methos had adorable floppy hair. Early 19th-Century Methos entertained the idea of threesomes.
Wolfram - Sep 10, 2003 8:34:42 am PDT #199 of 10000
Visilurking
Okay I whited out what you whited out in my quote for obvious reasons.
§ ita § - Sep 10, 2003 8:36:49 am PDT #200 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's been out ten months, but a little erring-on-the-side-of-oops won't go awry.
Sean K - Sep 10, 2003 8:39:05 am PDT #201 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Yeah, I think we're past the point that it counts for white fonting in the movie thread, but c'est la vie.
I'm not sure how I feel about this development, I may have to wait until I see the movie to know for sure. Either way, it's been a while since I really cared all that much.
happy phantom - Sep 10, 2003 8:39:36 am PDT #202 of 10000
I'm old school. Like Happy Shopper.
Me too, strangely. I was full of the TNG love when it was on, but whenever I check which episodes are playing on Spike (nee TNN), even the really good ones are not enough to make me watch them again.
Hmm, I sense a pattern, as I'm the same. I can easily fall back into watching a DS9 episode, but whenever TNG comes on, I find myself flicking pretty quickly
X-posted, but yeah, Ezri. I felt bad because I really liked the actress and some of what they did with the character, but she started out too perky and neurotic.
Most of my problems with that character arose from the fact that the way they made her feel more like she fitted in was to have her cure Garak's nervous breakdown. Sacrificing a wonderfully subtle character like Garak, just so that Ezri could feel all fulfilled was a ridiculous contivance, and one I could never quite forgive.
(Also, to introduce myself further, I used to love Due South when it was on, but haven't seen it in years, adore Farscape, though due to scheduling problems I've yet to see the 4th series and Smallville is a mystery to me. I've tried watching occasionally, but just find it a little to dull and overly sentimental most of the time. Plus I don't find TW all that attractive, so I don't even have that to ull me in!))
Emily - Sep 10, 2003 8:44:35 am PDT #203 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
happy phantom, some of us are under the sway of the subversive lure of Michael Rosenbaum, rather than the hypnotic glare of Tom Welling's orthodontic work. Actually, I don't watch it anymore anyway.
I was always a little irritated with the conception of Data (and Spock, for that matter) -- quite clearly he had emotions. How could he have wanted emotions without them? And as fond as I am of "My neural pathways have become accustomed to your input," he liked the crew!
(Edit: Although of course with Spock it makes more sense. Still, sometimes I just wanted to hit Bones over the head: "Look, you shithead, facts aren't somehow the opposite of emotion!" Then he'd see the light and get down on his knees and propose and we'd live happily ever after while going from elf-strewn planet to puppy-and-kitten-inhabited planet to Planet of the Amazons, where I would be crowned Prettiest Princess, looking for the Home of the Talking Horses.)
§ ita § - Sep 10, 2003 8:47:38 am PDT #204 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I was also taken aback by how much more "alive" the Holo Doc on Voyager was than Data. I was told that the emotion problem was because Data was self contained, and wotsisname didn't have that problem.
Whatever.
And contractions -- what the hell? It's just language. You can have a computer use them without exploding.
Emily - Sep 10, 2003 8:52:45 am PDT #205 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
It's just language. You can have a computer use them without exploding.
No shit. I can program contractions. Data had full language capabilities! That's... that's... we still don't know quite how that works! But he couldn't learn "if first word 'I' && second word 'am', replace with 'I'm'"?