I don't know about you guys, but I've had it with super-strong little women who aren't me.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


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§ ita § - Mar 25, 2003 10:17:36 am PST #1835 of 6793
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the clarity that Spike has with regard to the demon vs his mother

But where does that leave Spike/William/demon? I thought that was a bit weird.

I liked that, although he thrilled in the kill, Spike was still a schmoop off the bat. A schmoop to whom love mattered from the get go.


Elena - Mar 25, 2003 11:23:58 am PST #1836 of 6793
Thanks for all the fish.

I thought it was amazing how in days his accent went from Posh William's to the accent Spike has now.

But it was still William during the scenes with his mother. He didn't turn into Spike until later - in Yorkshire? - and I see Spike being a direct result of his Mother's taunting. Because she said he was still the same, and William was determined to be different.

I was thinking that if the thing with his mother hadn't happened, he would have wound up being another Dalton.

Yep.

And I love that he wanted his Mom to come along while he ravaged Europe.


victor infante - Mar 25, 2003 3:26:30 pm PST #1837 of 6793
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

And I love that he wanted his Mom to come along while he ravaged Europe.

I loved the look on Dru's eyes when he told her. "You want to bring your mother?" Bwah!


Laura - Mar 25, 2003 3:35:59 pm PST #1838 of 6793
Our wings are not tired.

That was a refreshing change from FE!Dru. Loved it.


P.M. Marc - Mar 25, 2003 5:04:28 pm PST #1839 of 6793
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Loved Mom and was thrilled with the clarity that Spike has with regard to the demon vs his mother. Mmmm looking forward to watching again tonight.

See, I think Soul!Spike was wrong. I think Vamp!Mummy was being honest.

Also, I thought the "I just want you to know that" worked better on Angel, with the pillow.


PaulJ - Mar 25, 2003 5:12:29 pm PST #1840 of 6793

I was very confused by Spike's suddent assertion that Human!Mom and Vamp!Mom were two completely separate entities. Despite it being canon, I've always had trouble swallowing it; the vampires in the Buffyverse tend to carry with them the psychological traits of the human.

Oh, and Buffy admitting offhandedly that she would let Dawn die now also bugged the hell out of me. Hello??? "The gift"? Not even two years ago?


Wolfram - Mar 25, 2003 5:12:29 pm PST #1841 of 6793
Visilurking

Also, I thought the "I just want you to know that" worked better on Angel, with the pillow.

Wrod. But it did set up a major HSQ. I was almost disappointed to see the principal left alive.


Wolfram - Mar 25, 2003 5:13:35 pm PST #1842 of 6793
Visilurking

Oh, and Buffy admitting offhandedly that she would let Dawn die now also bugged the hell out of me. Hello??? "The gift"? Not even two years ago?

I didn't have a problem with that. She's supposed to have grown since then, and she's become big picture slayer.


Elena's Husband - Mar 25, 2003 10:05:33 pm PST #1843 of 6793
I want miniature cheeseburgers!

...Despite it being canon, I've always had trouble swallowing it; the vampires in the Buffyverse tend to carry with them the psychological traits of the human.

IMO the demons simply work to relax any restrictions or inhibitions that the human might have had. This way the traits stay, but the demon acts to prevent the voice of reason/sanity to work its way into the picture.

I don't believe that the demons are present in a controlling fashion, broadcasting "do evil" vibes to the host. Otherwise vampires would be consistantly evil, would they not?


Elena - Mar 25, 2003 10:20:35 pm PST #1844 of 6793
Thanks for all the fish.

Copy that over to the main Buffy thread, if you please. It's an interesting point that should be argued over.