Okay, he has to get it so that the Principal can see him in it; let's just go through it as fast as we can, look at all the pages we still have to shoot

I dunno -- the actual putting on of the coat was such a power moment that we watched it 4 times, more than any other bit. It might vary with your attachment to bad Spike, but I thought the symbology huge, and got my biggest cheer of the show (second to him lighting up).

I thought Buffy yelling was creepy too, and the scary part of the Chaka Khans was that Buffy hadn't take the power she'd been offered, and that she knew it, and that it could eat at her.

For me, the missing part of the emergency box is how it dropped out of the loop. Did the kid just hide it under his bed? Why did the watcher who raised him let it happen? Did that watcher drop out of the CoW? Why wasn't McHottie even slightly perturbed that they'd been blown sky high?

I was with Buffy on both losing it and turning down the power.

We've seen what extrademonosity can do to a girl, and it ain't pretty. I like the whitefont Angel comments counterpoint to the Demon-Powered Cordy.

I'll have more on this later.

For me, the missing part of the emergency box is how it dropped out of the loop. Did the kid just hide it under his bed?

Specially because, the way Wood told it, it sounded as if he (a tender 4-year old) was the one who had made the decision to keep it.

I dunno -- the actual putting on of the coat was such a power moment that we watched it 4 times, more than any other bit.

YMMV, indeed. So, the soul was preventing him from smoking too? Reminds me of some spanish movie critics commenting on how, since the anti-tobacco campaigns went full speed in the U.S. around 10 years ago, the only ones who still smoked in Hollywood movies were the bad guys...

I didn't think too much of Buffy rejecting the power, because I didn't have a clear mental picture of what that power would mean, practically speaking. Even more strengh? Physical speed, endurance? Would she have turned into Godzilla!Buffy had she accepted?

So, the soul was preventing him from smoking too?

No, the smoking was like the coat, a symbol of days past. In the end he'll need to integrate, but for now, he's on a nice vacation. Also, shorthand for not that nice a guy (cf Angelus smoking that chick in the alley in Innocence)

I think what Buffy asked of him was cruel, since she knows he thought he was getting the soul for her, and that she's asking him to return to a level of viciousness he didn't really now feel comfortable, and that he would do it all, for her.

On the other hand, Spike's back!

Spike's back-- with his better costumes and his accent. I knew that was why everyone thought JM sucked lately!

Also, where WAS the coat. That sort of bothered me. If they knew they were going to get Spike back, they knew that they had to fet the coat from the Summers house to somewhere else. Unless that WAS the summer's house, but I thought it was the school.

Ah, the accent! How could I forget?

I'd kinda wanted a vision quest for the coat, akin to the trials for the soul. It would have been best (slash aside) if he'd gone back to Xander's for it -- showing he was dragging it along with him, but not able to wear it. I *guess* he got it back before the season started and left it behind when he moved in with the Xan man.

Canonically, it is all about the coat.

No, the smoking was like the coat, a symbol of days past

Oh, I know. I was just being snarky :-).

I understand the symbolism of the coat, but like ita, I think it would have worked better if he had had to earn it. Or if it had been a result of something more... elaborated, not just "now I need to be bad, so I'll go and get the coat... just in time for the Principal to see it and confirm his suspicions (oh wait, I'm not supposed to know that! I'm a fictional character!)"

For me, the missing part of the emergency box is how it dropped out of the loop. Did the kid just hide it under his bed?

I can see the CoW being outwitted by a 4-year-old.

Ouise, if you're reading this, how's your trip going? Meeting many Buffistas?

I forgot about Angel until just now. Sue, can I borrow your tape if you are indeed taping?

UGH!