I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


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Megan E. - Feb 04, 2003 11:57:59 am PST #1327 of 6793

Also, how pissed at Amy is Willow going to be?

I kept waiting and waiting and Waiting for Kennedy to tell Willow "It was Amy". Just 3 little words.. "It was Amy". I know that these things get covered off screen, but it would have been nice to see Willow's reaction.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2003 12:07:37 pm PST #1328 of 6793
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"It was Amy". I know that these things get covered off screen, but it would have been nice to see Willow's reaction.

I hope we do get to see it ... I'm thinking Kennedy is more obsessed with Willow right now, and not thinking. Plus she doesn't know the history. At the very least, Amy needs to get booted from the kumbayah circle. Whose lead was kinda hot, plus there was at least one guy.


Laura - Feb 04, 2003 12:19:41 pm PST #1329 of 6793
Our wings are not tired.

Rack would make an awesome FE.

"It was Amy". Just 3 little words..

Exactly. I was shouting it too. Of course Willow is not supposed to get all vengeancy. Once again AH did such a great job with the emotional breakdown. I just ached for her.


Griffyn - Feb 04, 2003 12:20:48 pm PST #1330 of 6793
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?

Just saw the episode (SO's mother took us to Fireside for dinner to celebrate SO's B-Day) and have to agree that it was very poorly written indeed.

Cap'n Cardboard was completely unbelievable as Willow and left me pining for the Baith/Fuffy switch. The chemistry was completely missing between Willow and Kennedy, the writing was poor, the show dragged for me and, in short, it left me feeling as flat as a mostly empty 2-litre of ginger ale that's been sitting in the car for a month.

I loved the plot points, some of the resolution setup, etc. But how it got there was bad at best. Not one of the episodes I'm going to need to watch again.

YOMV


Griffyn - Feb 04, 2003 12:23:19 pm PST #1331 of 6793
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?

In other news, my travels back to the US look like they're getting pushed back so I expect to be in town for the rest of the month.


Megan E. - Feb 04, 2003 12:24:32 pm PST #1332 of 6793

Cap'n Cardboard was completely unbelievable as Willow and left me pining for the Baith/Fuffy switch.

FYI, Captain Cardboard is code for R*ley, who we saw in the Previouslies, not Warren.


Griffyn - Feb 04, 2003 12:32:49 pm PST #1333 of 6793
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?

FYI, Captain Cardboard is code for R*ley, who we saw in the Previouslies, not Warren.

Oh, my bad. Personally, I saw more capability for emotion and good acting in Riley than I did in Warren. While the Trio saga was playing out, I hoped it was just his character. But no, it would appear to be nothing more than poor acting skills on the part of the performer. Man, that guy almost makes Young Anakin Skywalker (either performer) look like he has depth and range.


Jon B. - Feb 04, 2003 12:40:13 pm PST #1334 of 6793
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I liked Warren as Willow. I thought he did a good job of slipping from one character to the other as "Willow" was slowly taken over by Warren's personality.


PaulJ - Feb 04, 2003 2:11:01 pm PST #1335 of 6793

Just saw the episode. Before it, I thought that it was either going to suck, or be one of the all time classics. The result?

Well, it was decent. Fair ep. Not bad...

I did buy and liked the main switcheroo (Willow/Warren), which was the most worrisome part for me beforehand. The problem is that they didn't milk that insanely good/bad premise for what it was worth. I did want to see more Willow-angst, delving more into her story, her horror at being transformed into Warren, and there just wasn't enough of that IMO. Then again, I also liked the other two storylines, so I guess the only solution will be to move Buffy to PBS so that it can be commercial-free and we can have 15 more minutes each week to tell the story.

I did like the final scene... up to the point where Kennedy "cured" Willow by kissing her. The concept was fine; the execution, too run of the mill. Again, more angst, more Willow running away, Kennedy going after her, the two struggling... And the final line? "I'll make you some tea?" Lame.

(On edit: and besides, Kennedy didn't look nearly as scared/distraught as she should have been for that scene to really work. She looked in every moment "in control" of the situation, which might be part of her character but detracted from the scene. I don't know if it was the actress' fault or the direction, though).

Some other comments:

  • Didn't really buy Adam Busch as Willow. He was... correct, but not great. You can see there how good Alyson is.

  • Although it hasn't reached my irritation threshold yet, I hope that they don't repeat the "Spike's in trouble/we have to save him" storyline. Otherwise, Spike is going to become the new Dawn.

  • I don't have particulary strong feelings on the subject, but I wonder if they couldn't have left the Giles-touching for the next week. This way, they could have had more time for Willow-angst. Mmmmm, Willow...

So, to summarize: Greenberg isn't off the hook in my book yet, but at least it's the first of his episodes that doesn't suck.


Wolfram - Feb 04, 2003 2:17:49 pm PST #1336 of 6793
Visilurking

I thought the Giles resolution was a huge letdown. They set us up for weeks only to find out he just happened not to touch anything that anyone could remember? There better be more to the no-touching business than this.