Buffy: How bored were you last year? Giles: I watched 'Passions' with Spike. Let us never speak of it.

'Beneath You'


Atlantic Canadian Monday Madness  

[NAFDA] We used to get Buffy the day before everyone else, now we get Angel a week after everyone else. And Firefly every Monday!


Megan E. - Jan 20, 2003 7:48:05 pm PST #1131 of 6793

I sort of liked the new potential's skiniiness, in that it looked like genuine teen skinniness/gawkiness rather than Hollywood skinniness.

It does make her seem more vulnerable and fragile than the other proto-slayers. Must mean that she's going to be the most powerful.


Sue - Jan 20, 2003 7:48:06 pm PST #1132 of 6793
hip deep in pie

I agree with you Jon, that in contrast to the last two, this one was much better.

All the lecturing Buffy did at the beginning was tiresome. And seemed to be done with an irony, even though Buffy at that age wouldn't have shut up for even half of her little lecture. She's become the boring watcher she used to mock.


Megan E. - Jan 20, 2003 7:48:49 pm PST #1133 of 6793

And how "watcher's council" was it for her to lock the 4 slayers in training into a crypt with the vampire?


Elena - Jan 20, 2003 7:52:58 pm PST #1134 of 6793
Thanks for all the fish.

Bufy is not doing a very good job training them. Using them as bait, sure.

And, yes, horrible, horrible counsellor.


Sue - Jan 20, 2003 7:53:53 pm PST #1135 of 6793
hip deep in pie

I sort of liked the new potential's skiniiness, in that it looked like genuine teen skinniness/gawkiness rather than Hollywood skinniness.

I agree Sophia. She's the skinny of someone who hasn't finished puberty yet.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 20, 2003 7:55:30 pm PST #1136 of 6793
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As I was watching it, I was thinking of someone (I am not sure who) commenting on Buffy's essential selfishness. I actually think they were rebutting your Willow-hatred with examples of xander's self-righteousness and Buffy's self-centeredness. At the time, I was thinking that Buffy wasn't really like that anymore. But of course, she is!


amych - Jan 20, 2003 7:57:52 pm PST #1137 of 6793
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Hey, all -- Elena invited me over since I was taunting in the main thread....

I really, really noticed the shout outs... Namechecking episodes Living Conditions and Gone.

I didn't notice the ep titles so much as a couple of visual shoutouts -- the shot of Dawn & Amanda breaking in through the window matched Darla and boy doing the same thing in WTTH, and D & A blocking the classroom door with the cabinet looked like W & T blocking the door in Hush. Obviously, not by the same means, or for the same ends as far as the story goes, but the composition of the shots was so similar as to make me immediately yell "shout-out!" Much to the dogs' amusement....

Also, not only is Clem back, but he has TiVO!

Overall, I was annoyed by much of the Dawn-goes-slaying plot, and I thought all the Buffy/Spike awkward-ex crap was strained as hell, but Xander was Xanderiffic at the end. And I really bought where Dawn was emotionally in that scene.


Elena - Jan 20, 2003 8:03:35 pm PST #1138 of 6793
Thanks for all the fish.

Finally the year of Xander?

Buffy gets to be selfish. She saves the world. A lot. She dies. A lot. She gets a pass from me for a lot of stuff.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 20, 2003 8:04:08 pm PST #1139 of 6793
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Oh-- I forgot about Clem and the tiva-- I loved that. Also loved Anya saying she didn't really get the whole thing where Dawn was the same as Buffy in the gift.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 20, 2003 8:05:54 pm PST #1140 of 6793
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'm OK with Buffy being selfish. I'm ok with all of them having their faults. I am fairly certain that in real life, I would adore Buffy beyond reason.