Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Narrator - Jan 25, 2005 4:32:17 am PST #9821 of 10001
The evil is this way?

I saw a bumber sticker this morning which said: "I am a Canadian." Like I needed to know. The guy was a polite and careful driver. I already knew he wasn't from around here.


Lyra Jane - Jan 25, 2005 5:19:04 am PST #9822 of 10001
Up with the sun

I've read that Oz was originally meant to die in "Passion." Does anyone know if there's any truth to this?

I know that the plan for Willow to go eveil after her partner died was pretty long-standing -- Oz was spared only because Seth Green left the show before they could kill him, and Tara was doomed from day one, and actually lasted a season longer then planned. I'd never heard this particular variation, but it wouldn't surprise me if that had been an idea. (Though perhaps not, because Willow going evil after Passion would have been hard to integrate into the Angelus arc. But maybe they didn't plan to send her evil at that time.)


Topic!Cindy - Jan 25, 2005 5:21:39 am PST #9823 of 10001
What is even happening?

I saw a bumber sticker this morning which said: "I am a Canadian." Like I needed to know. The guy was a polite and careful driver. I already knew he wasn't from around here.

People like that can really screw up traffic.


Connie Neil - Jan 25, 2005 5:24:11 am PST #9824 of 10001
brillig

I'm still wanting more details on the "Maybe we'll turn Xander gay" alternate storyline.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 25, 2005 6:34:08 am PST #9825 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think they took a look at Angel and realized having that much male-centered gayness on both shows would be redundant.


Daisy Jane - Jan 25, 2005 6:43:20 am PST #9826 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

To me Xander would have seemed out of nowhere. Mostly because his reaction to girls he finds attractive has been pretty sudden. Willow's attraction to boys seemed to be about more than surface stuff.

I'm explaining myself wrong. Xander's set of people he is attracted to seems to have been good looking women, while Willow's seems to have been people who I have a connection with.


P.M. Marc - Jan 25, 2005 6:48:50 am PST #9827 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The guy was a polite and careful driver. I already knew he wasn't from around here.

Heh. Sounds like he was lying about the Canadian part, too...

(Although it's possible that drivers from Eastern Canada are polite and careful, I would never in a zillion years apply that term to BC or Alberta drivers. Especially ones related to me.)


Topic!Cindy - Jan 25, 2005 7:18:05 am PST #9828 of 10001
What is even happening?

It's been a long time since I've been there, but I think the eastern Canadians are polite. Anywhere rural though (and Canada's big country), north or south of the border, people drive differently than they do in more settled areas, and one of the largest parts of differently is the speed.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2005 7:19:51 am PST #9829 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In Montreal there are signs reminding you to only go on green. Along with NY, I think Quebec is the only state/province that doesn't let you turn right on red. Just in case.

It's one of those places they recommend you avoid the pedestrian crossings -- they're like salt licks for the drivers.


WildDemon Cornelius - Jan 26, 2005 10:29:57 pm PST #9830 of 10001
Take your fingers off it, don't you dare touch it, you know it don't belong to you, to you...

I thought it would be First Nation suit

For whatever reason, "Eskimos" get their own PC term, that is Inuit person; apparently, "eskimo" is a First Nations word that means something similar to "savages" so it's not really considered correct.

I know that the plan for Willow to go eveil after her partner died was pretty long-standing -- Oz was spared only because Seth Green left the show before they could kill him, and Tara was doomed from day one, and actually lasted a season longer then planned. I'd never heard this particular variation, but it wouldn't surprise me if that had been an idea. (Though perhaps not, because Willow going evil after Passion would have been hard to integrate into the Angelus arc. But maybe they didn't plan to send her evil at that time.)

Huh...yeah, I've heard (mostly from TVtome.com) that at one point they were going to kill Tara in Season Five and then have Evil Willow bleed Dawn at the end of the Season. I don't know that Willow going evil after Passion would have worked; she wasn't far enough down that road yet, she was still adorable geeky Willow. She hadn't even gotten into magic yet, she would have been stuck with battling Angelus with evil Calculus and Algebra. Having her lose Oz that early would have made the show much darker, and it would have made her character arc radically different.

The only thing I've heard about the Gay Xander idea is that the stuff with Larry in "Phases" would have been foreshadowing for it had they gone down that road.