So that's DeKnight and the first Drew (Z. Greenberg) from Buffy. Is there anyone else who is already (or going) over there?
Man, you just get darker and darker, and the weird thing is, your aura? Beige.
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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Topic!Cindy - Aug 11, 2004 7:00:25 am PDT #8733 of 10001
What is even happening?
JohnSweden - Aug 11, 2004 7:17:39 am PDT #8734 of 10001
I can't even.
So that's DeKnight and the first Drew (Z. Greenberg) from Buffy. Is there anyone else who is already (or going) over there?
Except that Greenberg has already left.
Drew Z. Greenberg (“Him,” “The Killer in Me,” “Empty Places”), who was scripting “Smallville” last season, is joining “The O.C.”
§ ita § - Aug 11, 2004 7:18:46 am PDT #8735 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yay! Mutant Enemies on The OC! Can we have Espenson too?
sumi - Aug 11, 2004 7:25:10 am PDT #8736 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Surely TC would lend her to OC?
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 11, 2004 7:53:17 am PDT #8737 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Yay! Increased slash potential on The OC!
Jim - Aug 11, 2004 10:52:00 pm PDT #8738 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Espenson wrote at least one S1 OC. I remember it was an early one, because the Seth/Summer crosstalk was just exactly S2 Xander/Cordy in tone.
§ ita § - Aug 12, 2004 3:49:41 am PDT #8739 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It was the one with the casino event, and Ryan's mother left him with the Cohens. It was beautiful. I want her back.
sumi - Aug 12, 2004 4:04:41 am PDT #8740 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
It was beautiful -- one of the best episodes.
Yes, she's wasting her gifts on TC.
Jim - Aug 12, 2004 4:29:35 am PDT #8741 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Ah, how I love the OC. It's Buffy methadone.
I'm watching S7 at the moment, and I've just got to Selfless, which is the first shock of the season.
When I first watched this I remember thinking it was brilliant, the best episode of season 7. I was totally wrong. It's just a pastiche of Joss Whedon's style and is the first Buffy episode to be utterly without an emotional story ; it's got this idea that Anya doesn't know who she is with a man/job, but it just doesn't go anywhere or make any emotional sense. He's picked up on a bunch of Whedon tropes - the hard cut from a happy flashback to a silent tableau of horror is the most obvious one - but he just doesn't get it. Why go into the song when he does? Why come back to skewered anya in an echo of The Body when we know she can survive?
Plus it's a fucking dismal song in comparison to the OMWF tunes.
Up to this point I'd been enjoying the season a lot - the opener with the high school works well, the Willow-in-England bits are aces, and even the Spike stuff isn't grating.
Fred Pete - Aug 12, 2004 5:01:28 am PDT #8742 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
Jim, I haven't seen "Selfless" lately, but it's one of my favorite S7 eps. But looking at it from the season as a whole, it suffers because there's no follow-up. I think the emotional core of the ep is Anya facing herself. Which could have kicked Anya's journey into high gear.
But it was just dropped until -- let's be generous -- her scene with Andrew in the hospital in the next to last ep. Contrast with Oz as werewolf, where a non-core-four character had his own, well-realized story.
Which is really the tragedy of S7. Not just letting the Potentials and the First drown out everything. But that the early eps laid a lot of groundwork for things that never paid off. Case in point -- even if you didn't like the "Scrappy Gang," there was a potential theme of grown-up Buffy bringing the school together to fight the Hellmouth. Think the flip side of S1-S3.