Riley: Maybe I should just let you rest. Buffy: You sure? I bet if you just lay down with me- Riley: Nothing you are about to say will lead to rest.

'Lessons'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Emlah - May 05, 2004 7:18:50 am PDT #7975 of 10001
To every idea a shelf...

I don't think there's an original story out there that charmed hasn't ruined forever retold.

If they ever crib the 'everybody dies' ending of tragedies like Hamlet I will watch it. I'm picturing a badly dressed corpse tableau right now, and it's pretty fucking great.


Bishop - May 05, 2004 9:39:50 am PDT #7976 of 10001
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How does Joss not win this one?

Well, physically, Carter is a surfer and all.

Plus, even though I was extremely unhappy with the final season of the X-Files, I never started despising the characters and praying for their demise. So that's a point for CC, too.


§ ita § - May 05, 2004 9:42:30 am PDT #7977 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I never started despising the characters and praying for their demise.

Really? I have no English to describe how completely disillusioned I was with the show when it became apparent that CC had no clear causal relationship to the high points of the show.

And THEN he fucked with it. Christ, it's like the Andromeda debacle writ large.


Bishop - May 05, 2004 10:11:21 am PDT #7978 of 10001
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I have no English to describe how completely disillusioned I was with the show when it became apparent that CC had no clear causal relationship to the high points of the show.

I liked a lot of the episodes that he wrote an awful lot, so that seems to be a causal relationship for my personal tastes at least.

The Andromeda debacle? Given that I never watched it, I probably shouldn't even ask, but... is there a short version?


Dana - May 05, 2004 10:13:00 am PDT #7979 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Kevin Sorbo's ego ate Tokyo.


Topic!Cindy - May 05, 2004 10:21:58 am PDT #7980 of 10001
What is even happening?

I want a Celebrity Deathmatch between Joss and CC

How does Joss not win this one?

Ha! I thought this was Joss and Charisma Carpenter. I was going to chime in that I wouldn't bet the mortgage on Joss.


P.M. Marc - May 05, 2004 10:33:24 am PDT #7981 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Kevin Sorbo's ego ate Tokyo.

Dude. KS v. CC.

Two twerps enter, no twerps leave.

Really? I have no English to describe how completely disillusioned I was with the show when it became apparent that CC had no clear causal relationship to the high points of the show.

Me neither.


Frankenbuddha - May 05, 2004 10:42:52 am PDT #7982 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Definitely in the same corner with Plei and ita vis-a-vis the X-Files, but I've ranted enough about how so much of the show is retroactively tainted forever and...

I'll stop before I go off on a rant.

deep breaths


§ ita § - May 05, 2004 10:52:13 am PDT #7983 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I checked the list of CC's episodes, and he has sole credits on two of my favourite eps. And on many more I hated. It's Morgan and Wong I like, really. As an influence, they track best to my happiness with the show.


Frankenbuddha - May 05, 2004 10:56:57 am PDT #7984 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It's Morgan and Wong I like

Plus the few that the other Morgan wrote or had a hand in (I think he was just an actor on Small Potatos).

Didn't Tim do Bad Blood (and why do I keep forgetting if he did - I love that ep)? I know he did the Lili Taylor one.