...the fact that they have humans on their plane and can reproduce with humans indicates a part-human nature.
Wait. What?
Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --
Jayne ,'Serenity'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Wolfram - Apr 29, 2004 8:04:23 pm PDT #7926 of 10001
Visilurking
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 29, 2004 8:20:17 pm PDT #7927 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Well, not Lorne's variety of Pylean specifically, but the Groosalug is living proof that humans and at least some of the residents of Pylea can interbreed.
Wolfram - Apr 29, 2004 8:30:33 pm PDT #7928 of 10001
Visilurking
Okay, humans and Pylean humans. Not necessarily humans and the greens guys. Although we do know that some demons can interbreed with humans, like Doyle's parents for example.
Gris - Apr 29, 2004 8:42:32 pm PDT #7929 of 10001
Hey. New board.
No, no. The Groosalug had "cow blood", implying that he, himself, was half-human half-Pylean. So some sort of non-cow Pylean could interbreed with the humans, else there would be no Groo.
Jim - Apr 29, 2004 11:33:57 pm PDT #7930 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
See, I think you've got it totally arse-about-face. The problems start when ME started trying to second-guess. Somewhere in Buffy S4, and in Angel S3, they started pandering. The fans like Spike. The fans like flashbacks. The fans like the big arcs. Hey! Let's bring darla back!
UTTAD - Apr 30, 2004 12:02:36 am PDT #7931 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
I thought the Groosulag was meant to be a kind of mutant wasn't he? When he was doing the whole "look at my big manly mis-shapen arms, the foul turn of my grotesque mouth, the beastly hue of my glinting eyes" and all that.
Frankenbuddha - Apr 30, 2004 6:29:47 am PDT #7932 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
See, I think you've got it totally arse-about-face. The problems start when ME started trying to second-guess. Somewhere in Buffy S4, and in Angel S3, they started pandering. The fans like Spike. The fans like flashbacks. The fans like the big arcs. Hey! Let's bring darla back!
I'm don't think that's it. They already had gone the big angst route in season 2, and liked it. There's only so many ways you can do that without just piling on new characters, so I think retro-fitting was what they thought they had to do.
I am curious what they decided when, though. I know I've heard intimations that Mr. Trick was supposed to be more important season 3 than he turned out to be, due to actor issues (non-specific, but that's what I read), not unlike Lindsey Crouse wanting out of 4. So was Faith always going to go bad, or was that something that grew out of the character? Was the mayor always going to be the ultimate big bad (even though on the gut level it was Faith who was the ultimate big bad for Buffy) so prominently?
Jim - Apr 30, 2004 6:54:07 am PDT #7933 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Well, the pattern (medium bad in first part of the season, shocking Big Bad in the second) was established in S2 and continued (arguably) to S6 (Spike/Angelus, Trick/Faith, Initiative/Adam, Glory/Buggerthatdoesn't work, Trio/Willow). But yeah, that's an interesting question - they'd been establishing the Mayor as a force in S2, so I guess he was always going to be a player, but it's hard to see what other function Faith could have performed. Which is not meant to sound as porny as it does.
Polter-Cow - Apr 30, 2004 10:19:03 am PDT #7934 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Glory/Buggerthatdoesn't work
Hee hee hee.
I know I've heard intimations that Mr. Trick was supposed to be more important season 3 than he turned out to be
Aw, man, I really liked him. And I saw him onstage in Art.
Vortex - Apr 30, 2004 11:15:51 am PDT #7935 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I know I've heard intimations that Mr. Trick was supposed to be more important season 3 than he turned out to be
I wish he had been. He had great potential. I know that he had to be gone for Faith to step in, but couldn't he have left town with a "live to fight another day" speech.