Cindy, you are no longer me. Pylea was a big hoot!

And thinking about it, they should've kidnapped Cordy after Birthday and replaced her with Jaye. Yuhuh.

Cindy, you are no longer me. Pylea was a big hoot!

It was a hoot (and there were hooters, too), but it was a letdown, coming right after the wonderful slow burn that was Angel's beige. I understand there were casting issues (with JL or JB) that fed into this, but for me, it was too anti-climactic, too soon. Groo can't act his way out of a paper bag. There was, however, Numfar. I will laugh about Numfar for 'til the end of my days. It just wasn't worth it to me, overall.

It proved that AA could look good even in a sack, and that CC could look good even in a gold bikini. Which, granted, they didn't need to go to Pylea to prove.

Also, "Handsome man saved me from the monsters" ... everyone's favourite line.

Cindy - It's just a thing with me and DB. I always thought he was a lousy actor. I like him - and by somewhere in Angel S2 he'd developed a great line in self-deprecating line readings which are really funny - but I never bought him as a romantic lead.

And Angel S4 I loathed because I just thought it had run flat out of ideas. I can't, off the top of my head, remember a single ep I liked in that whole season, to the point where i've never got around to seeing the finale. Specifically it was the nth interation of "someone goes Evil", the nth iteration of "I've been behind IT ALL, EVER!" and the nth iteration of Invincible baddie gets vinced. I think it was Hec who pointed out that it's like reading your 10th John Irvine book - I was just bored of the narrative tropes.

And when you can't make an episode good with Faith and Angelus? Time to hang up your spurs...

And Angel S4 I loathed because I just thought it had run flat out of ideas. I can't, off the top of my head, remember a single ep I liked in that whole season, to the point where i've never got around to seeing the finale.

You haven't seen "Home"?

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And when you can't make an episode good with Faith and Angelus? Time to hang up your spurs...

Hmm, it will definitely have to be an "agree to disagree" thing here, because I thought Faith and Angelus (and even more so, Faith and Wesley - typed Weasely at first, which is funny on any number of levels) were some of best parts of that season.

Steph - no. I was away when it was shown, and by the time I came back it was off BT.

And FB - I was thinking of Orpheus. The Wesley/Faith stuff was ace. In fact Wesley has been the sole reason I watch Angel (aside from residual 'verse loyalty - I'd watch a spinoff called Riley, Annointed & Kennedy - They Fight Crime if it came to it) for quite a while. Denisof is such an astonishing actor, and he always has foxy women.

Edit - and that, ladies and gentlemen, is what I call numberslutting. 3 posts back, #7777. I rule.

And FB - I was thinking of Orpheus.

I was refrencing that whole run of eps, myself. I thought Orpheus was a great ep (although a lot of the big fun was watching Faith "kicking the crap out of junior").

I have this theory, and I may be off-base here, but that people who have been or have people very close to them who have been clinically depressed tend to like S6 better than those of us who haven't been through that sort of thing.

That's funny, because that's actually one of the reasons I DON'T like S6. As it unfolded, I thought they were cribbing notes from my life as it actually happened (minus the depressing vampire sex). I was so unhappy that year in my real life, that it was just too much to look forward to the new BtVS episode each week (which always used to get my creative energies flowing) and then feel like I was being kicked in the gut repeatedly.

Also, I thought the writing was sub-par.