Joss Whedon has ruined me for regular TV.

Yeah, between him and that Minear guy, I spend a lot of time looking at other TV thinking "yeah, but where's the risk of loss?"

Bless them when they deliver, I love it so.

t basks in the Season 6 hate.

All y'all that liked it, well, carry on, but I'm just enjoying someone else coming to the light of the total suckitude.

t bitter tag for what was done to my show just don't close evah

Oh, for heaven's sake, Plei, you're going to take me to task for not having appreciation of the brain chemistry involved in depression in regards to my choices in entertainment?

No, she's taking you to task for a comment that came across as a bit dismissive to people who went through self-destructive, dark, and unhealthy times.

Self-destructive tendencies in fiction just make me go, "Call me when he/she grows up."

That made my hackles raise a bit, too, just so you know. Different perspectives, sure, no problem. But it still felt like you were dismissing something that a fair number of people have struggled with.

t /soapbox

Oh, for heaven's sake, Plei, you're going to take me to task for not having appreciation of the brain chemistry involved in depression in regards to my choices in entertainment?

I'm going to take you to task for how you worded that particular sentence. "I don't enjoy dark plots in my entertainment, they do nothing for me" is perfectly valid without being insulting. It's the "oh, grow up" reaction that gets my depressive goat, because that's like telling someone with two broken legs to just get up and walk.

Well, apologies to those who care.

edit: No, this one I will edit.

I do apologize to those folks whose good opinion I value. If any of those folk believed it was a slam on people who have had legitimate troubles with a serious problem, then I'm doubly sorry they think I would do such a thing.

As someone who does care, I thank you.

In defense of the growing up thing, that was supposed to be the theme of the season. (eta: ok, sentence that didn't come out how I meant it to. What I mean is something like no one on the show seemed to be handling their problems well/maturely, so, seen as part of that pattern, I can see it reading differently.)

My thoughts on S6 are mostly that it stayed in the same place too long, and lacked follow-through. I haven't gone back and watched it, but the way it replays in my head is: unhappy-unhappy-sexwithspikeunhappy (x 4)-unhappy-unhappy-tragedy-determinedface-feminine hygene commercial. And then, it's S7, which is a whole other kettle of fish I want to re-write.

I could probably deal better if I didn't think Willow's plot was seriously mishandled, so there was nothing to take my mind of the repetative dark of Buffy.

I have this theory, and I may be off-base here, but that people who have been or have people very close to them who have been clinically depressed tend to like S6 better than those of us who haven't been through that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Well, apologies to those who care.

Thank you.

I have this theory, and I may be off-base here, but that people who have been or have people very close to them who have been clinically depressed tend to like S6 better than those of us who haven't been through that sort of thing.

I've noticed the same thing. It's not the most universal of narratives, and I think it was hard for people who haven't been in the death spiral, or haven't been around people in the death spiral, to understand. Someone (Micole, maybe?) wrote a great essay on it a few months ago.