Mal: Take your people and go. Captain: You would have done the same. Mal: We can already see I haven't.

'Out Of Gas'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Frankenbuddha - May 19, 2003 7:36:58 pm PDT #721 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I know Allyson will deathmatch you over As You Were (or at least, liked it a lot).

I LIKE the Puppet show.

I personally can't think of an ME episode that there wasn't at least a redeeming moment, although I might need the chance to rewatch if people are going to challenge that remark.

And, yes, I would re-watch Doublemeat Palace except for the part where I know what I liked there.

ETA - on that Chicago Tribune article: DRU as one of the not-liked characters. Somebody needs a spanking when daddy gets here!


amych - May 19, 2003 7:41:13 pm PDT #722 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I've been on record since the day it aired about my As You Were hatred. Don't threaten me with Allyson -- I love her to bits, but she isn't going to change my mind on that one.

And I actually liked DMP too.


Kathy A - May 19, 2003 8:11:43 pm PDT #723 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

A decent, mostly spoiler-free article from the San Francisco Chronicle--my favorite paragraph is:

Just briefly about [the show's title]: The title may have deterred people from watching. But that title also meant that people had to look beyond it, not to judge the show on its face, to open their minds to possibility. Most television works very hard to keep viewers' minds closed, to provide tried-and-true laughs for weary working folk who need it and to foist upon us cookie-cutter familiarity that allows us to know that the cops will catch the criminals and, when the world gets a little too weird, that someone like Jessica Fletcher will be there to put the world to right.

WARNING!!—third to last paragraph has a spoiler-y quote from the finale in it—you might want to stop reading at the “So how does one conclude…” paragraph.

Article here.


Lyra Jane - May 19, 2003 8:11:58 pm PDT #724 of 10001
Up with the sun

I did not hate As You Were, but that's largely because of the "My hat has a cow on it" line. Also, if you watch S4 all at once and come in at the middle of S5 and watch everything out of order, the Riley arc doesn't suck as much.


Madrigal Costello - May 19, 2003 8:15:53 pm PDT #725 of 10001
It's a remora, dimwit.

"Pangs" was the one that first had me laughing out loud, and I've used it to try to convert people. It's well received, but I haven't managed to get anyone really into Buffy yet. So no toaster for me, still toasting my bread directly over the flaming pits of hell, thank you very much.


deborah grabien - May 19, 2003 8:32:48 pm PDT #726 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

There have really only been two episodes ever, in all this time, that ever left me completely cold. One of them was whatever the thing with the Snot Monster Cockroach from Outer Space, and even that had some of Ms. Sutherland's best work as Joyce, talking to the giant alien bug on the ceiling.

The other one was this season, I think - everyone swooning over the high school kid. I think he had an enchanted jacket or something, but the episode actually bored me to the point where I went online instead.

That's 1.5 episodes out of how many? Best ratio in the universe, I'd say.

Damn. Getting weepy. But we will at least have an incredible menu for the Mother of All Buffdinners tomorrow night.


askye - May 19, 2003 8:39:09 pm PDT #727 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

"Him" is the episode with the enchanted jacket. I don't like most of the episode, but I do it once Anya and Willow are enchanted and it's a race between them and Buffy to get RJ and then Xander and Spike to stop them.


ted r - May 19, 2003 8:40:51 pm PDT #728 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

The party isn't over. The party is moving to Angel's house. (And telling myself that is how I'm going to get through the last episode.)


DCJensen - May 19, 2003 8:41:54 pm PDT #729 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

"Him" gets better from the moment Dawn runs outside crying and Xander's foot comes into frame.


Madrigal Costello - May 19, 2003 8:44:14 pm PDT #730 of 10001
It's a remora, dimwit.

Yeah, the second half is entertaining, when it stops being all about Dawn and her pathetic crush.

This is so sad; the local Buffy group isn’t doing anything for the finale. Even the “Fear Factor” group had a barbecue tonight.