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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Narrator - Jan 07, 2004 8:05:13 am PST #7174 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Interview with Nicholas Brendon at tvguide.com.

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I know this has been done to death, but ever time I see OMWF and Xander and Anya pester Giles for some way to stop this thing it annoys me. Xander doesn't even look embarrassed

I don’t think he knew that whatever he did lead to all of those incidents at the time he was talking to Giles. If I recall correctly, Giles even said he didn’t know whether things were related. And Sunnydale has (had) no shortage of demony things, so he could have thought something else was causing the combustible persons.


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2004 8:08:57 am PST #7175 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I fixed your link, Narrator. Extra space.


tina f. - Jan 07, 2004 8:09:45 am PST #7176 of 10001

Hmm. It still doesn't work for me.

eta: sorry, now it does.


Narrator - Jan 07, 2004 8:13:17 am PST #7177 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Thanks. Me no post good.


Vortex - Jan 07, 2004 9:14:18 am PST #7178 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don’t think he knew that whatever he did lead to all of those incidents at the time he was talking to Giles.

As I recall, it wasn't until Sweet started talking about the amulet that they realized that was what called him.


Jessica - Jan 07, 2004 9:33:09 am PST #7179 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don’t think he knew that whatever he did lead to all of those incidents at the time he was talking to Giles.

So what did Xander think he was doing that he thought would be fun and have a happy ending? I don't buy it.


Wolfram - Jan 07, 2004 10:20:28 am PST #7180 of 10001
Visilurking

I don’t think he knew that whatever he did lead to all of those incidents at the time he was talking to Giles.

I'll have to rewatch but I believe Xander and Anya were complaining to Giles about putting a stop to the singing and dancing and that's when Giles told them the combustionews. We know that Xander was well aware of what he did and that it would bring the fun in, so why does he act terribly confused about the source of the fun? We're supposed to believe that Xander disingenuously seeked out Giles to complain about a phenomenon that he knowingly caused. It's not just out of character, it plays like a continuity mistake albeit in the same episode.


Thomash - Jan 07, 2004 2:04:18 pm PST #7181 of 10001
I have a plan.

And Sunnydale has (had) no shortage of demony things, so he could have thought something else was causing the combustible persons.

But eventually he'd have found out about the link. Where's the remorse?


brenda m - Jan 07, 2004 2:21:31 pm PST #7182 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

But eventually he'd have found out about the link. Where's the remorse?

What I would have wanted to see is not so much the remorse but the nervousness, the vaguely guilty feeling when it started looking like it might be related, maybe even some healthy denial or fear of discovery. Some teensy-tiny sign that there was something on his mind, even, especially as the combustions became known and Buffy started to seem to go off the deep-end. Some kind of groundwork, even if it's the kind you only recognize in hindsight. Without it, it just rings so false that I can't make it process through my mind.


Thomash - Jan 07, 2004 2:35:48 pm PST #7183 of 10001
I have a plan.

So, we can agree that either Xander's a closet scociopah or the writers just didn't consider that avenue?