I thought she found her interesting, but I never saw sparkage on Willow's side, any more than I would with any other person or block of concrete more interesting than Kennedy (read: all).

I thought she found her interesting, but I never saw sparkage on Willow's side, any more than I would with any other person or block of concrete more interesting than Kennedy (read: all).

I'm going to have to watch it again, because maybe I'm reading into my memories there, but I saw it as Willow seriously thinking about taking Fred up to a room up there, buying her breakfast the next morning, and then going home to Sunnydale.

But, y'know, the mind is it's own place...

I thought Willow was feeling Fred and Fred was just crushing on Will's brain. IIRC, Fred looked totally confused by Willow's, "I'm seeing someone." That scene, by the way, cracked my shit up. Loved it.

I think Willow was flirting with Fred, and Fred was mostly oblivious to the fact that the thrill she was feeling might be more than intellectual. And if Willow had been single, Fred might have had the chance to expand her horizons.

Which is to say, I'm somewhere between Victor and Gloomcookie.

I'm somewhere between Victor and Gloomcookie

I find it quite comfortable.

Can't speak for Victor and Gloomcookie, of course.

It's all good, Micole :)

I'm saying nothing.

I think Willow was flirting with Fred, and Fred was mostly oblivious to the fact that the thrill she was feeling might be more than intellectual. And if Willow had been single, Fred might have had the chance to expand her horizons.

I think Micole is right. But that's my usual stand.

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Feel free to keep up the compliments. Also, I liked your review of Little Deaths and meant to recommend the UK edition, which is double the size of the US edition, has truly terrible copy editing (authors names are mispelled in the table of contents), but is worth picking up for a terrific Nicola Griffith novella called "Yagura."

I have actually been wondering a bit about Fred and flirtation. She seems very often not to notice when people are interested inher--there were presumably meetings with Gunn pre-WitW (and don't even get me started on the plot cheat there) and she didn't notice until Gunn got very explicit, she seemed unaware of Wesley's interest for a long time, she was unaware of Willow. Did pick up on Knox fairly quickly. She's also not terribly good at interpreting people in general: her faith in Angel, for example, is charming but dumb, and a lot of her actions (not knowing how to deal with Gunn and Wesley in S4, assuming Cordelia and Angel belonged together Just Because, violently overreacting to Connor's betrayal) seem to come out of being kind of clueless, assuming people fit into neat slots, and then being startled when they don't.

Which makes sense for a kind of sheltered grad student who spent seven years in a hell dimension.

I'm going to assume that in high school she was pretty much too stoned to know what was going on outside of class. Or just not that interested in it.

I've always wondered if Gunn was her first boyfriend.