They should film that story and show it every Christmas.

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Cindy - May 16, 2003 11:51:15 am PDT #414 of 10001
Nobody

This is a place where the season didn't work for me. Emotionally, I want Snarky McHotperson to stick around. However, I haven't been shown what Buffy sees in Spike. He wasn't (pre-chip-removal) a very effective fighter, even though Buffy kept saying he was.

I would have liked to have seen a lot more evidence of Buffy depending on him emotionally, not just her saying she did. If you're going to play it as "I can't explain why, but I NEED him", you have to back it up subliminally.

Yes. I feel like they squandered a lot of potential (the interesting kind, not the pimply, whinging kind) this season.


DCJensen - May 16, 2003 11:52:46 am PDT #415 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Daniel, you are fabulously evil. I love it.

I probably should have shaded or blurred it a bit, but the obviousness of the sprayed-on eyepatch just seemed to fit.

And thanks.

I'll be going to hell now...


Betsy HP - May 16, 2003 11:56:55 am PDT #416 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Save a comfy couch for us.


Wolfram - May 16, 2003 12:03:53 pm PDT #417 of 10001
Visilurking

That reminds me, did someone catch the Python reference in "Touched" with the comfy chair? I don't remember seeing that mentioned.


amych - May 16, 2003 12:19:29 pm PDT #418 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm pretty sure it was mentioned, although I don't have the time just now to Nilly.


ted r - May 16, 2003 12:28:34 pm PDT #419 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

However, I haven't been shown what Buffy sees in Spike.

I have. I'll have to think about it though to see if I can put it properly into words. (I also, btw, don't think you can look at any Buffy season in isolation-what Buffy sees in Spike includes what she came to see him in season 5, and the Spike she confided in in early season 6. The AR isn't the only thing in their history together.)

In the meantime, I liked that last scene between Buffy and Spike for two reasons. One, it wasn't about what was said; it was really about what Spike couldn't say, and Buffy wouldn't say. Spike, all his protestations to the contrary, is still in love with Buffy, and was looking for permission from Buffy to tell her so, and Buffy, aware of that, refused (for now anyway) to give it. And second, because Buffy's refusal to let Spike admit his true feelings is exactly what opens the door to the FE in the final scene when Spike is spying on Angel and Buffy. Spike claims he has no expectations, but that scene made clear he still has hopes. And jealousy, which the FE hopes to use to turn Spike yet, depends on hope.


victor infante - May 16, 2003 12:43:09 pm PDT #420 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

That would be a boring gig. IJS.

We theorize that the Guardians have a sewing circle while they wait. And a killer book club.


DCJensen - May 16, 2003 12:46:04 pm PDT #421 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

We theorize that the Guardians have a sewing circle while they wait. And a killer book club.

And now? Netflix.


Betsy HP - May 16, 2003 12:51:14 pm PDT #422 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay, who rented 1984 AGAIN?


Garthim - May 16, 2003 1:08:45 pm PDT #423 of 10001
"Go that way really fast, if something gets in your way turn!"

I have a question. Everyone either feels bad for Spike or thinks he should be killed. What's Angel gonna say when he finds out about Buffy and Spike? I mean with Anya floating around he's bound to become privy to that info!