Zoe: We're getting him back. Jayne: What are we gonna do, clone him?

'War Stories'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Gleebo - Jul 28, 2003 11:44:30 am PDT #3682 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

I really liked the Chanterelle/Lily/Anne continuity as well minus the episode of Angel she was in with the shelter that ranks at the almost bottom of my ranking of all ME episodes.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 28, 2003 11:56:01 am PDT #3683 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The thing is, Mutant Enemy spoiled us with little touches like Sandy, Chanterelle/Lily/Anne, etc. If we'd never been exposed to that kind of care WRT the storytelling in the first place, we could have just handwaved stuff off the same way most genre shows require.


JohnSweden - Jul 28, 2003 12:03:18 pm PDT #3684 of 10001
I can't even.

The thing is, Mutant Enemy spoiled us with little touches like Sandy, Chanterelle/Lily/Anne, etc. If we'd never been exposed to that kind of care WRT the storytelling in the first place, we could have just handwaved stuff off the same way most genre shows require.

Yes, this. When they stopped caring about the show to the level I had become accustomed, they neglected to inform me.


Cindy - Jul 28, 2003 12:34:57 pm PDT #3685 of 10001
Nobody

Yes, this. When they stopped caring about the show to the level I had become accustomed, they neglected to inform me.

That's what it feels like. I was fine with taking Jenny Calander and making her Janna of the Kalderash tribe or whatever, because they made it happen, made it work.

Giles' no touching story could have worked without much more effort, even if they'd just played it for laughs with us, instead of on us.

If we saw each Scoob, one by one, noticing Giles was strange, and not touching anything, but we saw Giles touching plenty of stuff when they weren't around, it would have been fun for us, instead of annoying. A cheap laugh? Probably, but still a laugh, and a laugh that could have still explained underlying tensions within the gang. I'm still angry that the FE could appear as Buffy, but that they never used that to stir up any trouble between Buffy and the Scoobies before they realized their villain was the FE.

*sigh*

I'll never have another show I loved so much, to tear down, ever again.


tina f. - Jul 28, 2003 12:47:08 pm PDT #3686 of 10001

When they stopped caring about the show to the level I had become accustomed, they neglected to inform me.

There were some bright spots regarding this in S7 though, I thought. Mostly the bringing up of Xander's Big Lie and other things that seem Ultimate Drew-related.

It was a happy thing to listen to his interview on the succubus club and hear him say how when he got the job he watched every episode and just made a big ol continuity list of all the stuff he wanted to see happen. And then he said "I thought that's what writers on TV shows did." And I was like "Yeah, well, don't they?" Guess not.

He also mentioned though how closely he worked with Joss on all the eps he wrote - so the continuity goodness that did sneak in wasn't all just him.

Also, he had the best "meeting Joss for the first time" story I have ever heard.

t trying to be positive about S7

edited because I was being a bit too positive


Kassto - Jul 28, 2003 12:48:16 pm PDT #3687 of 10001
`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'

Yes, to all that Cindy, because the saddest thing of all will not be that people here are bitching about this and that. The saddest thing will be these threads drying up because people have nothing to say and don't care anymore.


Katie M - Jul 28, 2003 12:48:49 pm PDT #3688 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I'll never have another show I loved so much, to tear down, ever again.

Sniff. Though on the plus side, it's nice to watch shows that you like but don't expect to be brilliant. Very relaxing.


tina f. - Jul 28, 2003 12:52:08 pm PDT #3689 of 10001

The saddest thing will be these threads drying up because people have nothing to say and don't care anymore.

No. NO I SAY! Buffistas will always have something to say (right???). Even if eventually it's just posts that all say "NB - speedo - foamy - thunk."


Kassto - Jul 28, 2003 12:54:03 pm PDT #3690 of 10001
`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'

It's interesting to think what Mutant Enemy's relationship was with dedicated fans who NOTICE EVERYTHING. I know there's some feeling that they lurked around places like this and reacted to it in the show's development. How much respect was there, I wonder. There bloody should have been. I liked it when the show mocked itself, and happy it could mock dedicated fans too, but it was also that intense core of fandom that kept the show alive, kept it on its toes, so the writers knew they couldn't get away with weak, sloppy stuff.


Daisy Jane - Jul 28, 2003 12:56:23 pm PDT #3691 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think so. I'm in the middle (well actually not as far as middle) of watching my DVDs in order like it's one long mini series to see how stuff works w/o breaks for summer, waiting a week, expectations about what's going to happen and all that stuff. S1 ended well, and is better on rewatch, the beginning of S2 isn't really working for me, but I haven't gotten to Lie To Me yet. I'm not sure how The Dark Age will go what with already knowing about Giles's past, and especially in comparison with the Scruffing of Wes.