You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


esse - Jul 23, 2003 4:33:36 am PDT #3575 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Still looking for the ones for you from WTT Hellmouth SA, anything else?

Nope, just that. Thanks.


smonster - Jul 23, 2003 5:09:46 am PDT #3576 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

WRT Storyteller, we had a bunch of storms and I lost power from 7-12 last night. So, no 'vamPYR' fun for me. t pout On the plus side, I did finally get a decent night's sleep. Amazing how sitting in the dark with nothing to do makes you sleepy.

I'd love to see AH do drag. That may be just me.

Hmm. Not just you.

just as it was with NB, who is much too good looking to really be a Xander.

I think that Joss commented (on the WTTH DVD) that NB was too pretty and muscular to really be that unpopular in high school.

Just rewatched The Pack, and NB does 'smoldering' very very well. I love Xander, but it would be fun to see this aspect of NB some more. And by aspect, I clearly mean 'naked and wet.'


Cindy - Jul 23, 2003 5:13:00 am PDT #3577 of 10001
Nobody

Maybe it was because I had seen each episode only once as opposed to Buffy - but I lost my shit when I got my Angel DVDs - I have re-watched them a zillion times now. I had forgotten how much I loved Doyle - and how sad I was when he wasn't there anymore. And now, of course, it's all just sad.

Dh and I were noticing how many comments were made to and by Doyle about drinking in The Bachelor Party, by his soon-to-be ex-wife, Cordelia, etc.. It wasn't too far ahead of Hero (or is it Heroes?) in the line-up. I think only I Will Remember You was between the two. It was widely rumored that GQ had to leave the show because of substance problems, and (now) in the wake of his death, it makes me wonder if the writers weren't trying to reach out to GQ, through the dialogue. Of course now, I couldn't remember another specific example of that dialogue to save my life. But still...

I know with Doyle, there were, always, the Irish character - easy cultural stereotype drinking - jokes at work, but the comments in The Bachelor Party (and I don't mean this in an unkind way toward anyone - actor or writer) really hit me on the meta-textual level this time. I really enjoyed Doyle, and although at this stage in the game, if AD hadn't turned up and given us the Wesley we've been so fortunate to get these past few seasons, I don't think I'd still be watching, I can't help but wonder what might have been, had GQ been in a place where he could have stayed on as Doyle. It is all so sad.

edited - because I'm lucky I'm not up on charges for grammer bebutcherment.


tina f. - Jul 23, 2003 5:40:13 am PDT #3578 of 10001

I know what you mean about the meta with GQ Cindy and the alcoholism - but I do really think that even before they cast the part that they had wanted to run this metaphor of addiction and alcoholism through the whole show.

In the Season 1 overview, Greenwalt mentions that their idea was that Angel was always "one drink away" from going back to his old ways - and I think Doyle's alcoholism *would* have played more into that had GQ stayed on the show.

Probably the RL problems they suffered with GQ made them all a bit squicked on carrying on with that metaphor. It is just too weird to watch the Joss/Greenwalt commentary on City of because they talk about every extra and prop and NEVER mention GQ - even when he is the only thing on the screen.


smonster - Jul 23, 2003 5:47:01 am PDT #3579 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

It is just too weird to watch the Joss/Greenwalt commentary on City of because they talk about every extra and prop and NEVER mention GQ - even when he is the only thing on the screen.

Haven't done this. Didn't know that. Now I want to.


ted r - Jul 23, 2003 7:21:07 am PDT #3580 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

I'd love to see AH do drag. That may be just me.

And a couple of million others (me included).


Frankenbuddha - Jul 23, 2003 7:27:31 am PDT #3581 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

FYI - The Un-Americans have begun discussing Chosen (again?). I think the last of the last (the Australians) are finally getting it (although, not all at once).


Jeff Mejia - Jul 23, 2003 11:41:51 am PDT #3582 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Well, it looks like another Mutant Enemy actor will show up on 24. DB Woodside, who played Pricipal Wood, will be on the series in the fall. I saw an anouncement about it here.


Cindy - Jul 23, 2003 2:13:02 pm PDT #3583 of 10001
Nobody

oops


Vortex - Jul 24, 2003 10:52:16 am PDT #3584 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Just rewatched The Pack, and NB does 'smoldering' very very well. I love Xander, but it would be fun to see this aspect of NB some more. And by aspect, I clearly mean 'naked and wet.'

Hmm, like Xander gets the hyena whammy and joins the swim team?