I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Cindy - Jul 19, 2003 1:53:11 pm PDT #3481 of 10001
Nobody

They could have at least forshadowed the damned "our blood is the same thing" somewhere/anywhere in the season. It didn't have to be obvious - just something to point back at (if they'd taken as much care with this as for the stupid-ass "Giles not touching anything"...rant, rant, rant).

They did at least two times that spring immediately to mind - in Blood Ties with the 'Summers' blood' comment and again in Forever, when Doc yanks out one of Dawn's hairs, examines it, and pronounces that she has very strong DNA.


Elena - Jul 19, 2003 2:35:49 pm PDT #3482 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

Cindy is right, though I don't consider that nearly enough to have the whole Buffy=Dawn. Because my sister and I both have the same blood, and the DNA from a hair sample would be close enough to tell that we are related, but we are by no means the same person.

Willow's happiest moment would be during OM,WF. She's enjoying her power, she's got Tara happy, maleable, and loving. She's at the top of her game.

Xander... I'm not sure that he's ever really been happy; too much anger.

Everyone else... I'll have to think about it.


victor infante - Jul 19, 2003 2:41:27 pm PDT #3483 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Cindy is right, though I don't consider that nearly enough to have the whole Buffy=Dawn. Because my sister and I both have the same blood, and the DNA from a hair sample would be close enough to tell that we are related, but we are by no means the same person.

There's a whole sympathetic magic thing in my head that I can see, but not articulate. Will try to do so later.

Willow's happiest moment would be during OM,WF. She's enjoying her power, she's got Tara happy, maleable, and loving. She's at the top of her game.

Well, definitely during "Under Your Spell."

Xander... I'm not sure that he's ever really been happy; too much anger.

Breaking into the Initiative in "Primevil," when Buffy and Willow hugged him.


Cindy - Jul 19, 2003 3:17:03 pm PDT #3484 of 10001
Nobody

Breaking into the Initiative in "Primevil," when Buffy and Willow hugged him.

Yes this, and I keep flashing on the beginning of Crush when he and Buffy are investigating the train car that Dru wiped out and she's telling Xander about Spike's crush on her. He gets very silly, and it's very Xanderific - the whole, It's funnier if it's true bit.


Connie Neil - Jul 19, 2003 3:18:20 pm PDT #3485 of 10001
brillig

BTW, who did the voiceover of the "In every generation" speech at the beginning of the eps in Season 1?


Cindy - Jul 19, 2003 3:20:36 pm PDT #3486 of 10001
Nobody

connie - that was creepy announcer guy.


Connie Neil - Jul 19, 2003 3:23:38 pm PDT #3487 of 10001
brillig

Creepy Announcer Guy--ah, some anonymous W&H flunky?


Frankenbuddha - Jul 19, 2003 3:25:32 pm PDT #3488 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The Cindy stuff were hints, but not ones that added up to "My blood is EXACTLY the same as her blood." If that's what those moments were meant to convey (even if only after the fact) they weren't enough to make it NOT AN ASSPULL.

imo


Frankenbuddha - Jul 19, 2003 3:26:32 pm PDT #3489 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Creepy Announcer Guy--ah, some anonymous W&H flunky?

Worse, some anonymous WB flunky.


Lady O' Spain - Jul 19, 2003 3:36:57 pm PDT #3490 of 10001
Red hair and black leather--my favorite color scheme.

Actually, now that I think about it, all of the characters seemed pretty dang happy at the beginning of B vs D. Willow and Tara were together, out, and happy, and Willow hadn't gone overboard with the magic. Xander and Anya were together, happy, and probably boinking at least every other day (although Xander would get happier when he moved out of the basement.) Buffy and Riley's relationship hadn't gotten icky yet, and there was no little sister or sick mom to worry about yet. Riley was out of the Initiative. The friends had gotten over the split from season 4, and were pretty tight again. That scene on the beach was one of the few truly happy moments for the whole gang that I remember from the show.

The one exception was Giles (who, tellingly, wasn't on the beach with them.) He was all in turmoil and feeling obsolete as a Watcher. But, hey, can't win them all.