Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...

'The Message'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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tina f. - Jul 18, 2003 10:43:41 am PDT #3453 of 10001

Also though? I think the very end of Chosen was another moment for her. I wish Joss had given her the last line, though. I feel as though he cheated the character.

This may be a big ol copout on my part, Cindy, but I think of that look on her face as the last line of that episode.

I don't think Buffy was freaked out about the hunting. It wasn't after her encounter with Dracula that she realized that the hunting was a reflection of the darkness attached to her power, and that her need for the hunting (and hiding it) meant that there was something amiss re: Riley.

But isn't the teaser to BvD (I don't have it on tape, so maybe not) her getting out of bed next to a blissful Riley and hunting a vamp down and then going back to bed - and it was all like - Buffy has a problem, what is she doing hunting like a crazy animal, this is weird gentle viewer and this season we're gonna *deal* with it. Or maybe that was the next ep.


Sean K - Jul 18, 2003 10:50:39 am PDT #3454 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Uhm, Sean - have you heard my I thought Giles had been to hell and kept waiting for three whole seasons to find out how and why even though there was no real evidence to support that story?

Yeah, I was very entertained by your admission of this theory. There was even a sad little part of me that wished it had been true, it sounded so neat.


tina f. - Jul 18, 2003 11:00:43 am PDT #3455 of 10001

Yeah, I was very entertained by your admission of this theory. There was even a sad little part of me that wished it had been true, it sounded so neat.

I am glad it could bring amusement to somebody - because you have *no* idea how excited I was during Grave - with the magicks - I was all "Finally!! It's true! Giles is some all-powerful wizard who has been to hell and back and lived a thousand years and is probably a greek god of some kind and that's what this season finale is really about. At last, redemption for tina's crazy Giles' theory!"

And then Willow said the thing about them being borrowed magicks. And - well - the look the folks watching with me gave me I will never forget. They were so sad for me and yet so relieved that they didn't have to hear about it anymore. Little did they know I would find preverse joy in telling it over and over again...


Jeff Mejia - Jul 18, 2003 11:04:16 am PDT #3456 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Buffy has a problem, what is she doing hunting like a crazy animal, this is weird gentle viewer and this season we're gonna *deal* with it. Or maybe that was the next ep.

No, that was in BvD, but we the audience realize that it may be a problem for Buffy, but I suggest that at that time Buffy herself didn't view it as a problem.


tina f. - Jul 18, 2003 11:08:13 am PDT #3457 of 10001

but I suggest that at that time Buffy herself didn't view it as a problem.

I consider your suggestion...and accept it. That period was probably the time when her character was happiest over all.

Now I am going to go work because I have spent the last hour thinking about Giles - NSM conducive to getting work done.

eta: I was really posting so much to get to this cool number. I feel l've accomplished something important.


Jess M. - Jul 18, 2003 11:36:36 am PDT #3458 of 10001
Let me just say that popularity with people on public transportation does not equal literary respect. --Jesse

I just heard that a coworkers sister and brother in law are getting a dog, a husky that they think is part worf (female dog, btw). The BIL is a big Buffy fan, but doesn't want to name the dog Buffy. He wants to name it....Glory.

I suggested Veruca, since it's part wolf.


Vortex - Jul 18, 2003 11:59:31 am PDT #3459 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I just heard that a coworkers sister and brother in law are getting a dog, a husky that they think is part worf .

if it's part Worf, shouldn't it get a Klingon name?

(I HAD to, we were all thinking it!!)


Jess M. - Jul 18, 2003 12:10:03 pm PDT #3460 of 10001
Let me just say that popularity with people on public transportation does not equal literary respect. --Jesse

dang, I thought I had caught that!


Allyson - Jul 18, 2003 3:24:42 pm PDT #3461 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I wish Joss had given her the last line, though. I feel as though he cheated the character.

Oh gosh, I don't feel that way at all, I felt like Buffy's silence, the not having the last word, ever, was more powerful than anything she could have said. It leaves the path wide open for the scoobies and the audience, and I thought it was brilliant. We'll never know what she told them, and the expression of wonder/peace on her face was enough for me. And I was prepared to be a wee hate bomb about it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 18, 2003 3:49:35 pm PDT #3462 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Maybe it was the sap dripping off the end of "The Prom" that makes me disregard it as Buffy at her happiest. But I honestly think her happiest time (that we've seen) was in Season 1, when her new friends were like a family, she was beginning to grow into the Slayer role, she was still resolved to have a social life and do girly stuff, there were the first thrills of romance with Angel before it all went bad, and she hadn't yet been traumatized by the prospect of dying at the Master's hands. I remember a lot of laughter from that era.