I can't get to aintitcool at all, not even the main site. Dammit. What did Jane say about Joyce's visit to Dawn in Conversations With Dead People? Was it the FE in Joyce's skin, or Joyce?
We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die.
Mal ,'Serenity'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Cindy - Jul 06, 2003 2:26:56 pm PDT #3158 of 10001
Nobody
Connie Neil - Jul 06, 2003 2:33:06 pm PDT #3159 of 10001
brillig
I've always thought it was the FE in Joyce's skin, but I've never been sure about the Joyce who appeared in Buffy's dream, who kept telling her she needed to get some sleep. I was so sure that was the PTB, telling Buffy she needed to get some sleep so she could have a prophetic dream that would show her the way. And when she curled up with Spike and actually did get some decent rest, I was sure she'd wake up in the morning with the answer. Heck, maybe she did, but if it was tied together, they didn't mention much of it.
Elena - Jul 06, 2003 3:39:12 pm PDT #3160 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.
That would have been a nice bit of follow-up. Sigh.
Oh, and an actual reason to get Buffy out of the house. It was too noisy there for her to get a decent nap.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 06, 2003 3:47:18 pm PDT #3161 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I recently read a Joss interview where he more or less stated outright it was the First Evil in "Conversations with Dead People." I've seen nothing official about Buffy's dream though - could have been a visitation, could have been symbolism in a prophetic dream, could have been Buffy's common sense speaking via the image of her Mom.
Michele T. - Jul 06, 2003 7:26:21 pm PDT #3162 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Coming in late -- Harry Groener was (and has been again, I think, in very short appearances) the Secretary of Agriculture in the Bartlet administration. Bartlet's ep-ending speech to him in that State of the Union episode had me shouting "just ascend already!" at the TV.
Jim - Jul 07, 2003 12:42:13 am PDT #3163 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
"You got a best friend? Is he smarter than you? He's your Cheif of Staff" vomits.
Cindy - Jul 07, 2003 2:49:33 am PDT #3164 of 10001
Nobody
From what I understand though, Jane specifically addressed the Joyce?FE issue in that interview (that I still can't get). Did anyone who read the interview see that?
Nilly - Jul 07, 2003 2:54:58 am PDT #3165 of 10001
Swouncing
Cindy, from the interview (do you want me to e-mail you the text of it?):
AICN: You wrote the Dawn scenes in CONVERSATIONS WITH DEAD PEOPLE. Now that BUFFY is no more, some fans wonder what Joyce was talking about when she said, 'Buffy won't choose you.' But surely that was just The First messing with Dawnie's head, yes?
JANE: Yes indeed.
Cindy - Jul 07, 2003 3:03:50 am PDT #3166 of 10001
Nobody
Bless you, Nilly. You not only answered my question, but your link took me right to the interview. Thanks!
How are you doing? I can't make it to Natter these days and feel like I haven't seen you in an age. Of course, with all the talk of Nilly Goes Hollywood - I can understand how busy you must be, because a star's life is just relentless. ;)
Nilly - Jul 07, 2003 3:19:59 am PDT #3167 of 10001
Swouncing
I can't make it to Natter these days and feel like I haven't seen you in an age.
I know, I feel like I haven't 'seen' you for ages, too - I think Theo said that you were on a family vacation when I mentioned you once (with your 'will convert for food' motto).
a star's life is just relentless
Oh, yeah, very demanding. Though it's good that my Hollywood trip came up only now, when my students' exams are over, and I can return to doing actual work.
t /so exclusively natter I can't even pretend to try and connect it to BtvS in any way