She's terse. I can be terse. Once in flight school, I was laconic.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


candyb - Jun 26, 2003 2:55:05 am PDT #3071 of 10001

3 parts of a really good and long (7 pages so far) filmforce.ign.com interview with Joss Whedon is now up. The first part was added on Monday the last part will go up today, I think.

Me being me, can't really tell if it's spoilery, I don't think so. It's worth the risk because it's great. IMO, the best JW interview since that great one in The Onion from a few years ago.


Tom Scola - Jun 26, 2003 3:39:55 am PDT #3072 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Thanks, candyb!

Joss, on working on Roseanne,

You know what I learned? And this was one of the most important things I've ever learned, one of the defining things about humanity. It was when she made a speech at the beginning of the season about how the tabloids were really giving her s**t and how they were infiltrating the crew and stuff, people were feeding them stuff – "So you f***ing writers better keep your mouths shut or I'll have you all fired." I realized, this was the perfect opportunity to make a speech that brought everybody closer together, that said, "It's us against the world, and dammit, we've got good work to do here, let's all get it done" – and instead she used it to attack. It made me realize, at that moment, that every time somebody opens their mouth they have an opportunity to do one of two things – connect or divide. Some people inherently divide, and some people inherently connect. Connecting is the most important thing, and actually an easy thing to do. I try to make a connection with someone every time I talk to them, even if I'm firing them.


candyb - Jun 26, 2003 3:46:15 am PDT #3073 of 10001

Yes. That bit struck me too.

Makes me think Joss/ME writers saw Buffy as Roseanne for much of S7. Ugh.


tina f. - Jun 26, 2003 6:04:31 am PDT #3074 of 10001

You know, reading about Joss' education makes me feel WAY better about myself. I can now happily blame crappy American public schools as well as a just-OK public university for cursing me with just enough mental power to enjoy watching a show like Buffy but no where near the juiced up brain cells to write a show like Buffy.

Or for that matter, not even giving me a squishy frontal lobe capable of understanding some of the themes on the show until three articles, a book, DVD commentary and many many Buffistas explain them to me.


brenda m - Jun 26, 2003 7:32:28 am PDT #3075 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

"I am gonna catch that bastard or my name isn't--FUCK!"

Heh. It's from a fabulous Due South story, Chicago's Most Wanted, by Speranza. Incredibly funny. The speaker is Ray Vecchio Kowalski, who has some identity issues.


Katie M - Jun 26, 2003 7:37:32 am PDT #3076 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Oh, is that the criminal mastermind story?


brenda m - Jun 26, 2003 7:42:34 am PDT #3077 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yep, that's the one. Go here to read it.

I've heard it said a number of times that if they ever made a Due South movie, they could just film this story. It's really one of the best things to come out of the fandom.


Dana - Jun 26, 2003 7:43:52 am PDT #3078 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

"I'm saying it's a Fraser kind of plan!" Ray yelled. "Diabolical and nutritious!"


Katie M - Jun 26, 2003 7:45:49 am PDT #3079 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Love it. Even never having seen the show, love it. Poor Ray.


brenda m - Jun 26, 2003 8:00:00 am PDT #3080 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Dana, I was just coming back here to post that line. I love this story so much.