If Veruca wasn't a werewolf he wouldn't have strayed.

And?

Would he have boffed any werewolf that walked by? I never got that impression. Then it's not a lycanthropic compulsion.

No one's going to be unfaithful unless there's someone they want to boff.

Has this article, The Buffy Paradigm Revisited been linked to?

I seem to remember at least one of the articles it refers to, but not it itself.

I didn't like it. I think it was wrong about the show itself (hi tech worked against The Judge just fine), power doesn't always corrupt (hey, Buffy's done okay), and all of the characters do not feel called to their work.

So I cannot care about her conclusions.

I actually think Oz was doing the traditional Scooby action of not mentioning the problem to anybody while he tried to work it out himself. His motives for doing so are obviously complex (hence all the posts), but his isolation is traditonal when it comes to our heroes.

Oh, I agree it's a Scooby tradition and that Oz's reasons for what he did are a big complicated mess, but there was still a choice, and it is most certainly one in which he valued his wolfish connection to Veruca, and the potential experiences possible because of that, over his relationship with Willow.

"The only flimsy reason I have for thinking that they had consumated things is that Giles is not surprised in "Passion" when he believes that she let herself into his house and decorated it quite romantically and elaborately."

By the way, Passion is one of my favorite episodes in the series. Jenny's untimely demise represented the precise and simultaneous intersection of many Jossian plot devices -- sadness, fear, love, hate, anger, vengeance, surprise, responsibility and foreshadowing. After Jenny fell, Giles was willing to do what Buffy had been hesitating to do since Angel had turned -- exterminate the beast. That was some great stuff, the flaming baseball bat.

Passion was a pivotal chapter in the series. I still see S2 as the tale about the folly and the redemption of Buffy herself, personified by the danger she put Jenny in by not slaying Angelus when she had her first chance. A story like that has to be told early in a series, because it was a maturing phase for the Slayer. Not that she was all grown up after the Angelus arc, but she took one big step forward in understanding not only her power, but her responsibility.

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By the way, Passion is one of my favorite episodes in the series. Jenny's untimely demise represented the precise and simultaneous intersection of many Jossian plot devices -- sadness, fear, love, hate, anger, vengeance, surprise, responsibility and foreshadowing.

What I love most about "Passion" is that every time (every time!) I watch it, I always find myself shouting, "Run, Jenny!" I'm always hoping she'll get away from him and she never ever does.

Am I allowed to forgive both Oz and Willow? I mean, they each broke one another's hearts, but they both had reasons that I found understandable, and well, people (and witches and werewolves) make mistakes where sex and love and devouring people three nights a month are concerned.

I started watching with OMWF but Passion (when I was catching up on FX) was the instant I realized this series could go anywhere. Not just in killing off a major and sympathetic (and btw staggeringly attractive) character but doing it in the most painful (for the audience) way possible. No "shot down over the Sea of Japan" offscreen death.

I think Passion was the first ep where I realized DB actually had some chops. Heavies are notoriously fun to play, but he had gone from tortured and good to evil and loving it. The sense of fun, of passionate predatory glee he brought to the chase of Jenny, and then the almost offhand way he killed her...it gave me shivers then, and made me take another look both at character and actor.

Giles coming home and finding the wine and candles, and then Jenny was exquisitely heartbreaking. But I think I really bought Angelus as the evil he was meant to be in the scene where he watched outside the window while Willow and Buffy learn about Jenny's death.

I liked the voiceover, actually. Of course, I like the voiceover version of Bladerunner, too. I'm just a Philestine I guess.

Beverly, the voiceover was my favorite part too, I always think they add a chilling effect, like things we know the characters don't and might never. I like it in Beauty and the Beasts, I liked it in the parts of Restless it was used in. Voiceovers good in my book. But especially Passion. So torturous and very sad.

And speaking of sad yet totally off topic, my little hamster who I've had for three years died today...so I'm quite upset. Am I ridiculous for being completely crushed and spending a good lot of today crying over this? I feel silly, but I figure someone may have had a similar issue and have a solution for how I should handle it. So depressed.