I'm a big believer in SDT, but I don't think I'm as absolutist as many here. Because I don't have a problem with a character saying, for example, "I love you," and having them be utterly sincere and honest. I really don't. That's not a violation of SDT unless it comes out of the blue.

Okay. Let's Doblerize. And I mean *myself,* too, because I jumped in it.

The majority of people I know prefer to see a character's growth/feelings/etc. through actions rather than the character just saying "I feel XYZ."

No TV show/movie/novel/play is going to be ALL "show." Except, I suppose, silent movies. The issue most of us are talking about is how much "show" and how much "tell" we prefer.

Some people -- and it seems Ted is one of them -- don't have a problem with a higher percentage of "I feel XYZ" versus, for instance, watching a character cry to indicate sadness. They're okay with more telling.

It's like how much jelly you like on a peanut butter sandwich. (The analogy isn't perfect, so don't camp out on it, please.)

Also, nobody is going to budge on their position, I can tell. So there it is.

Aye, ma'am. Doblerizing.

I have to go home now anyway. :-)

No TV show/movie/novel/play is going to be ALL "show." Except, I suppose, silent movies.

• cough* They have the cards inserted with dialogue or other exposition.

I'm just sayin'.

What are those cards called?

Thank you for the radio interview link. It's really interesting.

And Ted, learning what we did about Xander in the above referenced scene does us very little good if we are supposed to get information about Buffy and Riley. Can you use the above referenced scene to explain why Buffy ran after Riley? I can’t. I am still baffled by it.

Not me. After that speech I wanted to run after Riley.

Ted, I am really, truly trying to understand your point, and not actually argue with you, Can you please explain to me Why you reacted the way you do to this scene, and, more importantly, why you felt Buffy should have reacted this way?

Victor, I watched the A&E Biography. I was a little disappointed by it. Do we need to white font discussion?

(ETA: Not that it contains spoilers, but I don't know if people want to watch it without knowing its content. Also, inadvertent serial.)

On the A&E Biography - I've been taping Farscape at midnite on Sci-Fi, and missed the 8 pm of Biography. Do either of you have an opinion on which I should skip? Be aware - I'm someone who's only seen a couple of Farscapes and trying to decide if I should commit, but not particularly tied to it yet. I guess I mean - if there was something else you were curious about, but not determined to see, would the Biography be worth it?

Skipping ahead to see if anyone watched the A & E Biography tonight?

*bouncing up and down* I did! I did!

Well, the last 20 minutes, anyway. But they're re-running it later tonight, I believe.

Waiting to see the verdict on the white font before commenting...

Ken, it really depends on how much you want to know or already know about Behind-the-Scenes of BtVS.

Victor, I watched the A&E show. Nothing new there but it was fun.

Instead, it gives me Buffy yelling at Spike and Willow in "Get It Done" that they've been holding back, afraid to use their power. What would have worked a lot better would have been scenes where I *saw* them holding back, afraid to use their power. In "Older and Far Away," an episode I don't even like, I at least get to see that Willow is so afraid to use her power--or so determined to win back her friends and her ex-girlfriend--that she won't use magic even though she and her friends are in mortal danger. I didn't get a single example of that this season, even though Willow's fear of her own power is purportedly a major theme.

Black-eyed Willow telling a frightened girl to shut her mouth was a shocking example of why Willow is frightened to use her power.

And I don't appreciate the snippy tone, when I feel I've been nothing but courteous to you. If you think I haven't been, I wish you'd say when and how.

I don't think I was being snippy towards you, but if some of my snippyness towards others spilled over I apologize.

(What follows is me being intentionally snippy.)

Ted - you can believe whatever you want to believe,

Very generous of you I'm sure.

but you have not actually been *shown* Spike's redemption. It has been told to you, whether you believe it or not, whether I like it or not. You are being seriously obstinant on this point, and I don't know why.

Well my guess would be it's because I don't agree, and because you are not a God-Emperor of Culture whose opinions I have to accept as fact.

Again, I'm not saying anyone is obliged to agree with me. I'm not right in some "objective" factual sense. I'm also not wrong in any objective factual sense. I'm fortunate in that most (not all, most) of this season has worked for me. I'm sorry others have not had as good a time as I have. Those views are no less valid than mine. And not one bit more valid.

Ted, I am really, truly trying to understand your point, and not actually argue with you, Can you please explain to me Why you reacted the way you do to this scene, and, more importantly, why you felt Buffy should have reacted this way?

I don't think there was a "should" there. I bought that Buffy could have reacted that way. But I think this has a lot to do with how you view Riley and the relationship he had with Buffy over the previous year-you can't remove how you take Xander's speech from how you feel about B/R.