Caroma - sorry I didn't get a chance to say Happy Birthday in the flurry of activity yesterday. I hope it was a great one.

I am really having focus issues today. I keep going over the paths each of our beloved characters followed over the years. Their growth. Their pain. Their joy. I’m just overwhelmed.

Oh, and I think I said bitca, not bitch.

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Sophia, precise timelines and Joss are not the best of friends.

Ah, thanks Wenda.

pretty please with your new portmanteau on top?

(Basic chatty stuff about my discomfort for the reasons previously mentioned with the idea of Spuffy, segued into some people would...) be shocked to learn that I firmly believe they had offscreen comfort sex before the big blow up.

So, yeah. That's what I got from the scene, or at least some making out.

Jim, love the valediction. One question: What is GBH?

The Buffista in me can only come up with "Great Big 'Ho", but I'm sure that's not it.

(Basic chatty stuff about my discomfort for the reasons previously mentioned with the idea of Spuffy, segued into some people would...) be shocked to learn that I firmly believe they had offscreen comfort sex before the big blow up.

So, yeah. That's what I got from the scene, or at least some making out.

I kind of agree, she got some more baking done with him. And yet Spike still believes she doesn't love him?

I'm slowly making my way through the Spoiler thread. Kristen said this on February 25:

Is it wrong that I want the entire town of Sunnydale and all its occupants to get sucked into the hellmouth, closing it forever?

Close enough, no?

WTF was Buffy wearing when she gave the "I'm ending this NOW" speech?

Oh, I liked that outfit. Huh.

Jim made me cry again. (But its ok, I don't mind)

t other usless nit

Wenda - I think you're right in that you did use bitca. To me, there's no difference in use of the term.

t /pick

Don't disabuse me of this notion until either Cindy's BP goes down or she's drunk.

Wheee! I can't drink; I have three kids that are always getting around me as it is. If I were drunk, they'd take over the world. BP is fine, now.

I don't know if we can have this discussion reasonably or not. I would hope we can, though. If she slept with him in the pre-School Bus scene (I think it's entirely likely), how does that make her less of a 'user' than if she cuddled with him, particularly in light of the fact that he characterized the first cuddle-session (in the abandoned house) as the best night of his life?

On Giles, I would never have doubted it was really him (my "freaked out" Giles) if so many here didn't keep insisting it wasn't. But on rewatch, knowing absolutely it is Giles, he seems more Giles-like each time (at least from the "squeaky shoes" story on), and I have fewer problems with him.

Okay, I'm just going to pretend that I wrote all of what follows, because it is what I've been thinking (without the, you know, putting it together coherently part):

And now it's over. Sunnydale is gone. I'd thought for years about how Joss would end it, but he exceeded all my expectations. Every major theme of the show was resolved - Buffy learned how not to be alone, Willow managed to resolve the power/evil struggle of this year, Anya faced down her two greatest fears, Buffy and Angel resolved the relationship, Giles found a role again. And, of course, Spike's transition from trickster to champion was complete. BTVS was never just about Buffy, so it's right that the finale wasn't. Most of all, it brought the metaphorical core of the show - girl power - back in the best way I can imagine. if Buffy began with a victim turning predator on a horror level (darla), it ended with hundreds of girls all over the world feeling their power. It ended with a revolution. He also brought in every riff and running gag the show's ever had - Bunnies, inappropriate Xander, Spike as comedy Angel retread, flip comments at the gates of Hell, the deadly serious dialogue/silly game bait and switch.