Yeah, do not be tempting the Earthquakes of Fate.
Don't you just love this party? Everything's so fancy, and there's some kind of hot cheese over there.
Kaylee ,'Shindig'
Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
P.M. Marc - Apr 01, 2004 12:06:03 pm PST #8840 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Kristen - Apr 01, 2004 12:06:14 pm PST #8841 of 10005
If I vanish suddenly, you'll all know why.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 01, 2004 12:08:05 pm PST #8842 of 10005
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Quick! Kristen, go stand outside the offices of Fox's programming executives and say it again!
Rafmun - Apr 01, 2004 12:15:58 pm PST #8843 of 10005
I'm made of felt and my....hey, who's hand is that?
And look, Wolfram and myself taking time to post and say we don't like it.
Thank you to you both. It is hard to be new here. Harder still when you make unpopular observations and have a tone or discussion style that is interpretted as irritating or 'troll like' from almost the beginning.
My voice counts here as much as anyone elses.
I hope to someday feel that way myself.
If she insults me, gets offensive, or breaks any other rules, I WILL ask her to be warned
When do you get to the position on the board (or in the words of others - have enough social capital) to be able to do that? As a fairly new poster, it is a very hard thing to figure out.
Jesse - Apr 01, 2004 12:17:16 pm PST #8844 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
When do you get to the position on the board (or in the words of others - have enough social capital) to be able to do that? As a fairly new poster, it is a very hard thing to figure out.
Anyone can ask. For there to be an official warning, 10 people have to agree. That's it.
Dana - Apr 01, 2004 12:19:27 pm PST #8845 of 10005
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
When do you get to the position on the board (or in the words of others - have enough social capital) to be able to do that?
Anyone can ask for a warning. And I'd certainly hope that if people agreed it was merited, they'd speak up here, regardless of how long the poster had been around.
I'm not at all offended by folks who disagree with me, but intentional meanness is very unwelcoming.
Which is why several of your posts over the past couple of days have put so many people off, judging by the reactions here. They've read, if not as intentional meanness, at least as deliberate attempts to stir up trouble. I'm not trying to open the whole thing up again, just trying to help explain why you got the reaction you did.
Rafmun - Apr 01, 2004 12:21:19 pm PST #8846 of 10005
I'm made of felt and my....hey, who's hand is that?
Anyone can ask. For there to be an official warning, 10 people have to agree. That's it.
Where do you do that (here?) and what is the proper/accepted form for doing so? Lastly, is there a difference b/w people who might say "Yeah, that was uncalled for", and those who will agree that a warning should be issued? In other words, if what was said to me was said to you (or msbelle or wolfram or Trudy), would you (same names here) ask for a warning?
Lyra Jane - Apr 01, 2004 12:21:26 pm PST #8847 of 10005
Up with the sun
Social capital is an ooky term because it makes it sound like there are two groups of posters: Us and Them, and Us count and Them don't. It's not like that. But as in life in general, the opinions of someone you know and respect count more in your head than those of someone you don'. But that doesn't mean that if someone you know and respect starts acting like an asshole, you won't call her on it. Or that someoen you *don't* know will not be listened to at all.
Steph L. - Apr 01, 2004 12:23:21 pm PST #8848 of 10005
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
When do you get to the position on the board (or in the words of others - have enough social capital) to be able to do that? As a fairly new poster, it is a very hard thing to figure out.
Anyone can ask. For there to be an official warning, 10 people have to agree. That's it.
Though the official procedure is to first just bring it up in-thread or back-channel, right? We don't skip over that, do we?
Also, Rafmun, because we're apparently different in our style of discourse from other boards (which I didn't know; this is just something that people have told me -- not backchannel), that's why we do suggest in the Etiquette section that new people lurk for a bit: because what might seem like a warn-able/ban-able offense is just an accepted convention. Like the period where a lot of people called each other FUCKO. That one in particular might look strange as hell to anyone who jumped right in.
That said, anyone certainly can jump right in, no lurking.
DavidS - Apr 01, 2004 12:24:48 pm PST #8849 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
They've read, if not as intentional meanness, at least as deliberate attempts to stir up trouble.
I'll specifically note, you were very flip at times while a lot of people were trying to give your allegations serious discussion. Very offputting. Also, a lot of your responses didn't engage other people so much as dismiss them as attempts to derail discussion away from the issues as you saw them.