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Scrappyat work - Apr 19, 2003 10:14:51 am PDT #839 of 10005

I know, Victor. I think she's clearly suffering from mania or is schizophrenic. The non-logic logic of her posts has that same "making the hairs on the back of one's neck prickle" that is the hallmark of the non-lucid. When I was teaching, a clinician told us that the back-of-the-neck thing or a bad headache were a really strong sign one is dealing with actual delusions rather than made-up ones.

I still think she earned her banning, BTW--I just hope she gets some help.


Beverly - Apr 19, 2003 10:18:48 am PDT #840 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Thanks, for saying that, scrappy. It 'felt' like schizophrenia to me, too, reading it.


Caroma - Apr 19, 2003 10:30:47 am PDT #841 of 10005
Hello! I must be going.

Just wanted to stop by and ask if maybe something could be mentioned to Gar about his tone. I dropped out of UnAmerican because I was being too disruptive--my bantering tone about politics was taken as being disrespectful of the other posters so I exiled myself because I was upsetting Fay and Angus and the others. Fine. It's their thread, I shouldn't even be there anyway. And reading back, I was sometimes sarcastic and broad, expecting people to be sarcastic and broad right back, not so...professorial.

But in chasing me away, I found Gar a little much with the condescension and overkill. E.g. when I said I was trying to be funny, he came back with stuff like,

"Incidentally there is a marker often used to identify jokes - funniness. Humor that lacks this can be very hard to spot."

This from a guy who hasn't told a joke here in two years. I mean, does he have to bring in the heavy artillery every time he gets mad at someone? Isn't that as disruptive to the civitas of the board as my transgressions?

I guess I'm probably totally out of line on this, as I seem to be with everything these days, and absolutely nobody else has problems with him, but now that my social capital's at an all-time low, what the hell, I wanted to throw this out. Can't sink any lower here.

And Allyson, I've been on the receiving end of Fay anger too. I'm sure I deserved it, but Yikes, huh?


DXMachina - Apr 19, 2003 10:51:06 am PDT #842 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Caroma, I think you would be better served if you directed your complaint to Typo Boy rather than to the community. Unless they violate etiquette, posting styles have no business in here. Come to that, he could make just as valid a complaint about your posting style.

My best advice to you is just let it go, and I would give the same advice to Gar if he asked.


Susan W. - Apr 19, 2003 10:52:50 am PDT #843 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

What DX said.


Scrappyat work - Apr 19, 2003 10:55:52 am PDT #844 of 10005

In your final post in Unamerican, you made it clear that Gar's posts bothered you, Caroma, as you should. I have some personal problems with the style of some posters myself--they feel patronizing, or bossy, or arrogant--and I just ignore them. I am sure that I have the same effect on some people and they do the same to me.


Typo Boy - Apr 19, 2003 11:12:49 am PDT #845 of 10005
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Deleted at Jesse's (implied) request.


Jessica - Apr 19, 2003 11:19:27 am PDT #846 of 10005
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Guys, at this point, you two either need to take it to email or just learn to ignore each other. This isn't a community issue because neither of you is being generally hostile or rude, but (speaking for myself), I'm sick of watching you snipe at each other.


Fay - Apr 19, 2003 1:27:30 pm PDT #847 of 10005
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I dropped out of UnAmerican because I was being too disruptive--my bantering tone about politics was taken as being disrespectful of the other posters so I exiled myself because I was upsetting Fay and Angus and the others.

Caroma, for what it's worth, you have never made me angry or upset me. You've inspired me to write long posts about Big Important Things and think hard about stuff, and I'm sorry that this is (sometimes) boring and/or patronising etc, and that you weren't actually taking the issues as seriously as I was. But, fwiw, I was never upset about it. I just disagreed with you. Different thing. You haven't seen me angry with you, however provocative you may have been, deliberately or otherwise, 'cause you've never made me angry.

In fact I can't remember anyone making me really mad here* other than Allyson, which was down to my own misunderstanding and once I realised how thoroughly I had misunderstood her point I emailed her to apologise for being a jerk. We're cool. She's a gentleman and a scholar.

Although, being the tremulous wee flower she is, I'm sure that she appreciated your sympathy over what a bitch I can be. That was very supportive of you.

eta

*oh, and Msk one time.


Burrell - Apr 19, 2003 2:54:24 pm PDT #848 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

When I was teaching, a clinician told us that the back-of-the-neck thing or a bad headache were a really strong sign one is dealing with actual delusions rather than made-up ones.

Wow, very interesting. This was my own personal, non-scientific way of assessing such behavior, so it's interesting to hear that clinicians rely on it as well.

I am sure that I have the same effect on some people

Honestly Scrappy I can't imagine you sounding patronizing, bossy, or arrogant to anyone. That could just be my Scrappy-love talking, but I don't think so.