Xander: I still don't get why we came here to get info about a killer snot monster. Giles: Because it's a killer snot monster from outer space. I did not say that.

'Never Leave Me'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Dana - Mar 30, 2004 4:18:55 pm PST #8292 of 10005
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

You missed the part where I imposed my will on Hecubus.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 30, 2004 4:20:19 pm PST #8293 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Re the FAQ;

IS there anywhere that we can put the sBuffista Stortroopers that we used to have heading the WX forums? They were so mch fun, and while I understand the bandwidth prblems, I wish people would see them through the FAQ if they wish. They link us with our history, I think. (also, I had fun learning photoshop to make the Buffybot!)


Kat - Mar 30, 2004 4:25:11 pm PST #8294 of 10005
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

There's absolutely nothing to atone for. I'm not upset at all anymore. I was upset at the time. I voiced my upset and I was done. I felt bad and I figured out what I needed to do to feel better, which was just basically stating what I felt so I did it.

I'm bringing it up because I have been looking for a recent concrete example when I have had an issue that was dismissed as a personal annoyance, as Rafmun had noted.


Kat - Mar 30, 2004 4:26:45 pm PST #8295 of 10005
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

(cindy, THANK YOU!!)


Consuela - Mar 30, 2004 4:52:31 pm PST #8296 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I missed the pink! So sad.


DavidS - Mar 30, 2004 5:12:58 pm PST #8297 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Did I miss total Pinkification?

Thank you, Kat. I saw. (Hec always makes me cry.)

He mad me cry nice tears today, too (Hec)

You missed the part where I imposed my will on Hecubus.

Ha! Making girls cry and submitting to Dana's will since 1999.


Elena's Husband - Mar 30, 2004 5:31:47 pm PST #8298 of 10005
I want miniature cheeseburgers!

You beat me to it, Ita! I too have blurred vision, but mostly from reading 500+ posts... And after doing so I have come to two conclusions. One, everyone needs a nap and their wooby. And two, reading an internet debate is akin to sticking one's head into a hornet's nest...

Re: Tone.
This bugs me. Divining tone from written media where no action/feeling has been implied is almost pronostication. Hell, even in a F2F can anyone truly be certain of a person's tone? Most of the time, sure, but not all of the time.
And herein lies the rub(e), we, as 'words in a box' (thanks Mecha!), are subject to no body language, no facial expression, and often, no *action/emotional* preface. Gotta tell ya, makes it damn hard for a person to divine tone. I would suggest that anyone that thinks they know another person's thoughts via the computer get themselves a 1-900 psychic hotline.

And if you disagree, ask yourself, is he sitting there with a stupid grin on his face? Or is he waving his fist at the monitor? Or is he indifferent to the whole thing?


Rafmun - Mar 30, 2004 5:41:23 pm PST #8299 of 10005
I'm made of felt and my....hey, who's hand is that?

And if you disagree, ask yourself, is he sitting there with a stupid grin on his face? Or is he waving his fist at the monitor? Or is he indifferent to the whole thing?

In which choice is the wooby present? That's the one I'm going with.

Cheekyness as(s)ide, I completely agree. Until today I'd have suggested that the only foolproof way to avoid misinterpretation of tone is to define it explicitly before beginning. However, as we've seen today, even going to that length is not sufficient to avoid problems.


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2004 5:42:57 pm PST #8300 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would suggest that anyone that thinks they know another person's thoughts via the computer get themselves a 1-900 psychic hotline.

I'd say that about anyone who knew my thoughts from talking to me in person too.

But that's an important distinction in interaction with new people. I know (fairly well) what a sarcastic Kat writes like. A sarcastic NewBuffista? Dunno. Dunno what NewBuffista sounds like sincere, or flippant -- I'd just be guessing.

Which is why, as a new person, I assume people can't read between my lines, and hope that as time passes, they do. If, as time passes, it's worth staying around. I felt the TT Buffy thread was pretty cold, but interesting enough to keep throwing my two cents in every now and again. God blinked, and then I was one of the most active posters there.

Other threads/boards never held my attention long enough for a potential mind-meld to happen. And if someone had suggested, in the wake of my departure, that things be changed so that I'd have stayed -- I'd probably not have stayed anyway.

I'm happy for people to have board I don't participate in. It's my luck and privilege that has me here now.


Elena - Mar 30, 2004 5:47:15 pm PST #8301 of 10005
Thanks for all the fish.

Which is why, as a new person, I assume people can't read between my lines, and hope that as time passes, they do.

Sure. And I would also hope that the people who are reading the posts are doing me the courtesy of also assuming that they can't read between my lines. It's a two way street.