Well, a gathering is brie, mellow song stylings; shindig, dip, less mellow song stylings, perhaps a large amount of malt beverage, and hootenanny, well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny.

Oz ,'Beneath You'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


msbelle - Apr 18, 2003 4:06:44 pm PDT #744 of 10005
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

yes. that.


Trudy Booth - Apr 18, 2003 4:10:47 pm PDT #745 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

IMO, if ten people think that a warning is justified, there's no reason we all need to talk about our feelings for three days before doing something about it.

People who disagree presenting their opinion on the matter is a reason for a discussion.

This time it was three or four. What if it were thirty?

Regardless, if someone comes in here and says "I think X" why shouldn't the people who think "not-x" hold their tongues?


msbelle - Apr 18, 2003 4:13:29 pm PDT #746 of 10005
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Trudy,

For me, the key point in Jess' post is "three days". I do not hear anyone saying don't post your thoughts on the matter. I do not hear anyone saying other voices should stay silent.


Trudy Booth - Apr 18, 2003 4:15:34 pm PDT #747 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It wasn't a finite incident. It went on continually and the discussion went on too.


Elena - Apr 18, 2003 4:16:19 pm PDT #748 of 10005
Thanks for all the fish.

Regardless, if someone comes in here and says "I think X" why shouldn't the people who think "not-x" hold their tongues?

Um, they shouldn't hold their tongues. And I don't think that anyone else is asking them to. But I think that I don't understand what you mean.


Trudy Booth - Apr 18, 2003 4:17:50 pm PDT #749 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm saying how do you NOT discuss things until they are discussed out?


Jessica - Apr 18, 2003 4:18:38 pm PDT #750 of 10005
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Regardless, if someone comes in here and says "I think X" why shouldn't the people who think "not-x" hold their tongues?

I'm confused now. The only thing that msbelle's proposal changes about anything is that once ten people say "Yes, this person deserves a warning," a warning is given (or suspension, or ban, if person X has already used up a strike or two). The proposal states that ten offended people is enough. It doesn't forbid anyone on either side from saying anything. (And it hasn't passed yet. People can still vote no.)


msbelle - Apr 18, 2003 4:19:04 pm PDT #751 of 10005
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Well Trudy, no one can stop people from posting. I guess the point is some of us feel that the discussions in here get not unlike beating a dead horse. But then again, no one forces us to read them.

You like a discussion, you just keep posting. I can skim.


Trudy Booth - Apr 18, 2003 4:20:23 pm PDT #752 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

What if thirty people think the ten are over reacting?

If we're going to have votes why aren't we voting about warnings?


Consuela - Apr 18, 2003 4:21:23 pm PDT #753 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Because some things are never discussed out?

For instance, if Zoe hadn't chosen to piss everyone off in the Angel thread the other night, we'd probably still be talking about her.

People got angry, people got upset -- heck, people are still getting angry and upset, look at what happened upthread between Allyson and Fay -- and I think they would continue to get angry and upset with one another.

I think having a set point at which action is taken (i.e., 10 seconds or whatever) is a good thing. It doesn't stop the conversation, but it relieves the burden on the conversation as being the driver for action.