Trudy,
For me, the key point in Jess' post is "three days". I do not hear anyone saying don't post your thoughts on the matter. I do not hear anyone saying other voices should stay silent.
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Trudy,
For me, the key point in Jess' post is "three days". I do not hear anyone saying don't post your thoughts on the matter. I do not hear anyone saying other voices should stay silent.
It wasn't a finite incident. It went on continually and the discussion went on too.
Regardless, if someone comes in here and says "I think X" why shouldn't the people who think "not-x" hold their tongues?
Um, they shouldn't hold their tongues. And I don't think that anyone else is asking them to. But I think that I don't understand what you mean.
I'm saying how do you NOT discuss things until they are discussed out?
Regardless, if someone comes in here and says "I think X" why shouldn't the people who think "not-x" hold their tongues?
I'm confused now. The only thing that msbelle's proposal changes about anything is that once ten people say "Yes, this person deserves a warning," a warning is given (or suspension, or ban, if person X has already used up a strike or two). The proposal states that ten offended people is enough. It doesn't forbid anyone on either side from saying anything. (And it hasn't passed yet. People can still vote no.)
Well Trudy, no one can stop people from posting. I guess the point is some of us feel that the discussions in here get not unlike beating a dead horse. But then again, no one forces us to read them.
You like a discussion, you just keep posting. I can skim.
What if thirty people think the ten are over reacting?
If we're going to have votes why aren't we voting about warnings?
Because some things are never discussed out?
For instance, if Zoe hadn't chosen to piss everyone off in the Angel thread the other night, we'd probably still be talking about her.
People got angry, people got upset -- heck, people are still getting angry and upset, look at what happened upthread between Allyson and Fay -- and I think they would continue to get angry and upset with one another.
I think having a set point at which action is taken (i.e., 10 seconds or whatever) is a good thing. It doesn't stop the conversation, but it relieves the burden on the conversation as being the driver for action.
Shouldn't this discussion be in Light Bulbs, since it directly concerns msbelle's proposal?
What if thirty people think the ten are over reacting?
Then participate in the discussion during the incident to indicate as much.
But I'm with ita: any incident that would result in 10 Buffistas seconding a request for Action? Yeah, that's worth taking an Action on.
Doesn't meant the party in question is gonna get kicked out -- it's just a warning, not the end of the world.