But if you keep rubbing it in their faces, how can they ever find a life beyond?

Can't we all just get beyond Thunderdome?

Hola all.

Consider my entire point dropped. I've been informed that newbies maybe shouldn't question TPTB so energetically, and that my little foray into the workings and mechanics here may not be all that well received, and having been a long-term-member of boards in the past, I don't see that response to my newbieness as a bad or unnatural thing (because hey - you've all been here longer than I, so you ~are~ more informed than me about this place), so let me apologise for stepping upon toes, raising ire, or generally pressing a point that is truly minor.

Instead, let me simply say thank you for the welcoming (up there somewhere), step off the medium-sized horse, remove my nose for a moment (I'm made of felt), and fade into the background with a sinsere "carry on".

Rafmun, I don't think your points were unwelcome or inappropriate. The problem is that when discussing community sensibilities you need to have a guage of...community sensibilities, which is something newbies, by definition, lack. I learned that the really, really hard way.

Rafmun, I don't think your points were unwelcome or inappropriate. The problem is that when discussing community sensibilities you need to have a guage of...community sensibilities, which is something newbies, by definition, lack. I learned that the really, really hard way.

My bad. Won't happen again.

Rafmun, put your nose back on, you're freaking me out.

Rafmun, put your nose back on, you're freaking me out.

Watch it dear, noseless people everywhere may take offense to that statement.

No doubt you'll be hearing from Mr. Jackson's legal time very shortly...

Hey Rafmun, welcome here. Good points and relevant. Just...as Wolfram notes, it helps to be uh...fully vested when talking about community standards.

I think we have a good and valid solution to this, which is to mine Elena's commentary for thread titles, as Gus suggested.

Also, like Mecha, if Spazzed is offensive, then I'd prefer something about eating babies.

Finally, I feel obliged to toss this out, despite the anti-proliferationist stance: Maybe we need a deathmatch thread.

It's popular, it's a way to maintain a connection with our core ME texts after they have slipped into syndication and no-new-ones. And we might want to run some that are not specifically Buffy quotes.

Like...Angel fight scenes. Whatever.

I think there's enough interest to justify such an action. Not that we have to debate that now, but I do think Deathmatching has established itself as a popular form of board entertainment, and probably needs its own slot.

It's all good, Rafmun.

Okay, I have no investment whatsoever in the Quotables title because tain't one of my threads. But I have to say, I am getting tired of how we Buffistas manage to turn everything into a long, painful debate.

Personally, I consider "spaz" offensive language & try to avoid it. That said, I'm sure I've used it myself (hence I say I try). I don't see the value in drawing a distinction between what offends me and what may offend others. I'm kinda surprised at the number of Buffista who didn't know it was offensive, but that's neither here nor there.

Er, not sure why I'm posting. Maybe it's just a bid to say that these kinds of moments don't really require a lot of soul searching. A well-meaning "oops, sorry, my bad" ought to suffice.

Finally, I feel obliged to toss this out, despite the anti-proliferationist stance: Maybe we need a deathmatch thread.

It seems likely to me that we're going to want to do some reorganizing after Angel goes off the air. It might make sense, for instance, to combine Buffy & Angel quotables, archive the Angel Previously, add a deathmatch thread, and (proliferationist alert! But not really, given how slow the Buffy thread has been all season) start talking about one or two shows we can see dedicating threads to come fall.

But I'd like to hold off on any changes until we've seen the Angel finale.