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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Consuela - Feb 25, 2004 4:15:23 pm PST #6916 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Where would a birth announcement go? A barbecue invitation?

Beep Me.

A link to pictures from W&HAR?

Press.


P.M. Marc - Feb 25, 2004 4:17:04 pm PST #6917 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think gathering information should be Press more than Beep Me, though it's a toss up.


Kat - Feb 25, 2004 4:57:15 pm PST #6918 of 10005
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Secret confession:

When I had Big News t TM to announce, I accidentally did it in Press. When I realized it, it was too late to move it to Beep Me but I still felt like a schmo.

As ever, PMM says what I have to say but in a much more cogent way.


Hil R. - Feb 25, 2004 5:12:19 pm PST #6919 of 10005
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I am a little fuzzy on the difference between Press and Beep Me even though one says General Announcments and one say Personal Announcements. Where would a birth announcement go? A barbecue invitation? A link to pictures from W&HAR?

I'd say the first is definitely Beep Me, the last is definitely Press, and the middle could be either, but I'd say Press. Beep Me is for announcements about stuff going on with the individual poster. The "this is going on in my life, and I want everyone to know about it," stuff. Birth announcements, new jobs, marriages, new photos of the poster's kids, etc. Press is for "this is happening, and it might be of interest to other people in the community" stuff. Party invites, info about F2F stuff, picture links having to do with the community.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 25, 2004 5:40:54 pm PST #6920 of 10005
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

On the "Istanbul got spazzed" question, might we get a show of hands for those that it would offend as opposed to those who are worried that someone might be offended. I think that might be more useful in the decision making.


P.M. Marc - Feb 25, 2004 5:49:45 pm PST #6921 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

On the "Istanbul got spazzed" question, might we get a show of hands for those that it would offend as opposed to those who are worried that someone might be offended. I think that might be more useful in the decision making.

Given that it *is* offensive language in the UK, I'd really rather we not use it for a thread name. And again, this is the second time in six months this has come up in my world. Me? I'm not offended by the word. I probably won't stop using it, frankly, because it doesn't carry the same weight here, and I probably use worse terms in daily speech, but the very fact that it is offensive outside of the US makes me think it isn't an appropriate name for a thread.


bon bon - Feb 25, 2004 6:43:43 pm PST #6922 of 10005
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I am a little fuzzy on the difference between Press and Beep Me even though one says General Announcments and one say Personal Announcements. Where would a birth announcement go? A barbecue invitation? A link to pictures from W&HAR?

If the history helps with the distinction at all. Before there was Press, announcements for things like voting were posted in every thread at WX. Which was redundant tending on irritating, particularly if you tried to read new at the same time those announcements were being posted, thread by thread.

Apocalypse was proposed by and for people who wanted to know what was up in people's lives but couldn't keep up in natter. Announcements like Kat & Lori's are the kind of thing everyone wants to know, but NSM the same types of announcements that were posted in every thread.

It perhaps goes without saying that at WX thread creation for whatever whim under the sun wasn't that controversial.


Susan W. - Feb 25, 2004 8:55:24 pm PST #6923 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Given that it *is* offensive language in the UK, I'd really rather we not use it for a thread name.

I'm with Plei--I think we have enough UK-speaking posters on the board that we should avoid it.


Megan E. - Feb 26, 2004 1:03:38 am PST #6924 of 10005

I have debated making this comment for fear of seeming insensitive but here goes.

The deathmatch posts in Press are relevant to this board. They are Buffy related, in a Buffy fan environment.

(unspecified)~ma requests in Apocolypse for people that none of us know seem much stranger to me than announcing a deathmatch vote. Some of the posts in beep me aren't apocolyptic in relation to the board (i.e., going away for a while, having a baby, losing a parent), but are related to other people in our outside lives. I understand that the board is a support for all of us since we have close friends here who help us through tough and stressful situations (goodness knows I've benefited from ((())))'s myself), but I don't have enough ~ma to help heal the world. However, none of these posts bother me since I know the posters are making them for very personal reasons and they need to share their feelings and thoughts.

That being said, I'm not for censoring anything in Press or Beep me that fits the thread profile - including deathmatches and ~ma requests. The deathmatches won't last forever, lots of posts are made in all threads that not everyone is interested in, and it takes no time at all to hit that Read New button.


Rafmun - Feb 26, 2004 4:03:36 am PST #6925 of 10005
I'm made of felt and my....hey, who's hand is that?

Regarding the use of regionally offensive language - My newbie naive suggestion would be to use the 'Buffy-verse' as our guide.

That which would be offensive in Buffy, should not be allowed. What is regarded as acceptable within the Buffy/Joss context - the subject matter this entire community is built around - should not be re-contextualized beyond the show.

The board is about things Buffy, and if a word, phrase or language is from that show, or the general Jossverse, than I suggest that it has already defacto been accepted by all those who would visit here seeking entertainment/information on that show/that verse.

It's not about not sympathising with regional language nuances, but rather more about logistics, consistency, and establishing a universal language base that the group accepts by way of it's fandom.