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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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erinaceous - Jan 13, 2004 6:56:46 am PST #6480 of 10005
A fellow makes himself conspicuous when he throws soft-boiled eggs at the electric fan.

I heard back from one of the organizers, and it looks like there would need to be a specific opt-in. So I would say the board as a whole would have to approve the general idea (because we are, of course, a COMMUNITY, and the idea of somebody saying "I'm gonna take my posts and put them over here" all cowboy-like doesn't appeal to me), but then each individual person who wants their posts in the corpus would have to send me permission. Whether that means just an email or signing a form, I dunno yet.

For simplicity's sake, I would think people would have to say either a blanket yes or a blanket no to having their posts used. I don't know if I could deal with people who said okay for one thread but not another -- it could get really complicated, really fast.

I also said that I would do the pre-processing to remove the posts of people who didn't opt in, so that no NonBuffista eyes would ever see material that wasn't specifically okayed for inclusion. Let's hope my mad perl skillz are up to the challenge. (Luckily, the html on the threadsuck is really well done. Props to the Stompies!)


brenda m - Jan 13, 2004 6:59:38 am PST #6481 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

For simplicity's sake, I would think people would have to say either a blanket yes or a blanket no to having their posts used.

Sounds good to me, I love this idea.

Another question - is there a time period for this? Or more of a perpetuity thing?


Wolfram - Jan 13, 2004 7:01:36 am PST #6482 of 10005
Visilurking

Whether that means just an email or signing a form, I dunno yet.

I think all you would need is a "post" from each member who wishes to opt in, which would tend to authenticate that the poster who gave authority was the same poster who made the original post. If that made any sense.

And FTR, I think it's a great idea.


Steph L. - Jan 13, 2004 7:02:19 am PST #6483 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I also said that I would do the pre-processing to remove the posts of people who didn't opt in, so that no NonBuffista eyes would ever see material that wasn't specifically okayed for inclusion.

Woman, you rule.

So, should we take this discussion to Lightbulbs, so as to not clog up Bureaucracy?


Lyra Jane - Jan 13, 2004 7:07:03 am PST #6484 of 10005
Up with the sun

I think all you would need is a "post" from each member who wishes to opt in, which would tend to authenticate that the poster who gave authority was the same poster who made the original post. If that made any sense

True. The advantage of email I can see is that it wouldn't clog up a thread. It might also be seen as more of a guarantee that the writer understood what s/he was signing up for if there was ever a question.


Wolfram - Jan 13, 2004 7:09:07 am PST #6485 of 10005
Visilurking

I think erinaceous is getting more details so she can make a proposal that can then get seconds and then be moved to lightbulbs. But can we move to move a discussion to lightbulbs without waiting for the official proposal? (Which would keep B'cy from getting clogged on one issue, but might throw some people off as to the timing of the proposal.)


brenda m - Jan 13, 2004 7:09:10 am PST #6486 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It might also be seen as more of a guarantee that the writer understood what s/he was signing up for if there was ever a question.

And much easier to sort/list than a bunch of posts in a thread, I'd think.


brenda m - Jan 13, 2004 7:10:34 am PST #6487 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

We might as well wait until erinaceous can put all the details (so far) out there at once. It'll probably save some confusion.


Wolfram - Jan 13, 2004 7:11:23 am PST #6488 of 10005
Visilurking

True. The advantage of email I can see is that it wouldn't clog up a thread. It might also be seen as more of a guarantee that the writer understood what s/he was signing up for if there was ever a question.

Except that would only work for posters who have email addresses in their profiles, which can also be removed or changed at will so it does pose a slight authentication problem. If this project was actually going to move forward, you could have a short-term temporary thread for opt ins, that could get threadsucked and deleted after the fact.


victor infante - Jan 13, 2004 7:16:16 am PST #6489 of 10005
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Shiny! I'm all for this. It sounds foamy.

The data can be anonymized so that no user name, personal name, or place name appears. So that "I hung out in Somerville with Emily and VWbug last night" would appear as "I hung out in PLACENAME with PERSONNAME and PERSONNAME last night." Actual replacement strings would vary.

Although I feel for the poor suckers who have to strip proper names from things.

Fnord.