How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Wolfram - Jan 13, 2004 7:11:23 am PST #6488 of 10005
Visilurking

True. The advantage of email I can see is that it wouldn't clog up a thread. It might also be seen as more of a guarantee that the writer understood what s/he was signing up for if there was ever a question.

Except that would only work for posters who have email addresses in their profiles, which can also be removed or changed at will so it does pose a slight authentication problem. If this project was actually going to move forward, you could have a short-term temporary thread for opt ins, that could get threadsucked and deleted after the fact.


victor infante - Jan 13, 2004 7:16:16 am PST #6489 of 10005
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Shiny! I'm all for this. It sounds foamy.

The data can be anonymized so that no user name, personal name, or place name appears. So that "I hung out in Somerville with Emily and VWbug last night" would appear as "I hung out in PLACENAME with PERSONNAME and PERSONNAME last night." Actual replacement strings would vary.

Although I feel for the poor suckers who have to strip proper names from things.

Fnord.


Astarte - Jan 13, 2004 7:17:05 am PST #6490 of 10005
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

For simplicity's sake, I would think people would have to say either a blanket yes or a blanket no to having their posts used. I don't know if I could deal with people who said okay for one thread but not another -- it could get really complicated, really fast.

This seems a reasonable criteria.

I also said that I would do the pre-processing to remove the posts of people who didn't opt in, so that no NonBuffista eyes would ever see material that wasn't specifically okayed for inclusion.

Thanks.

(Luckily, the html on the threadsuck is really well done. Props to the Stompies!)

Always a good idea.


Jessica - Jan 13, 2004 7:37:31 am PST #6491 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I heard back from one of the organizers, and it looks like there would need to be a specific opt-in. So I would say the board as a whole would have to approve the general idea (because we are, of course, a COMMUNITY, and the idea of somebody saying "I'm gonna take my posts and put them over here" all cowboy-like doesn't appeal to me), but then each individual person who wants their posts in the corpus would have to send me permission. Whether that means just an email or signing a form, I dunno yet.

Sounds perfect!

As far as emailing vs posting opt-in goes, could we modify the voting email form to be an opt-in form? That way we don't clutter up the board, and there's no way for someone to opt-in for anyone but themselves.


Lyra Jane - Jan 13, 2004 7:43:31 am PST #6492 of 10005
Up with the sun

could we modify the voting email form to be an opt-in form?

Ooh, Jess smart. That's a good idea.


Elena - Jan 13, 2004 8:14:16 am PST #6493 of 10005
Thanks for all the fish.

You know what's neat? "Nilly" and "meara" could end up in the dictionary.


DXMachina - Jan 13, 2004 8:21:01 am PST #6494 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

That would be so cool! Mejia, too.


Nilly - Jan 13, 2004 8:21:57 am PST #6495 of 10005
Swouncing

Heh. I just thought it could be complicated to distinguish between the times it's a name and the times it's all other sort of parts of a sentence.


Deena - Jan 13, 2004 8:29:12 am PST #6496 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Not so bad, if it's a search and replace kind of thing, in context.


erinaceous - Jan 13, 2004 9:53:49 am PST #6497 of 10005
A fellow makes himself conspicuous when he throws soft-boiled eggs at the electric fan.

Corpus linguists have special name-as-name and name-as-word sensors, so no worries there. And I'm only half-joking about that.

I think that we would choose a date on which to threadsuck and no posts would be taken after that date. However, if the last 1000 posts on that date were FOAMY! FOAMY! FOAMY! the linguists might get a tad annoyed. Just FYI.

I will get more info and try to post a complete summary by next Tuesday. Sound okay? I'll also try to answer questions from Lightbulb in the interim, if the discussion is moving there. Should an announcement be made in Press that this discussion is going on? I'd like to hear from lots of folks so I make sure I answer everyone's questions.