I-I'm just taking things without paying for th... In what twisted dictionary is that stealing?

Willow ,'Showtime'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Jessica - Jan 13, 2004 5:55:39 am PST #6475 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm very in favor of the project, but I think it has to be opt-in. I don't feel comfortable giving permission for anyone's posts to be used but my own.


Astarte - Jan 13, 2004 6:39:46 am PST #6476 of 10005
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Even if the posts will be anonymized, as in the example above? While our experiences are extremely unique, I haven't really seen them as unusual. Identifying individuals with the personal details of name and place stripped out seems pretty unlikely.

I do think we need a full proposal to be sure we can make an informed community decision, but so far I'm all for it, and thinking up words to seed future linguistics with even as I type.

Modigy, anyone?


Lyra Jane - Jan 13, 2004 6:47:19 am PST #6477 of 10005
Up with the sun

Identifying individuals with the personal details of name and place stripped out seems pretty unlikely

I would agree with that, but there's one thing I'm not sure about: Will everything frm the board just be listed as being written by buffistas.org, or will it still be attributed to individual posters? If it's broken down by individual poster, I can see the privacy concern, simply because a mass of words makes it easier to identify someone than any single sentence does.


Katie M - Jan 13, 2004 6:47:59 am PST #6478 of 10005
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Oof. I'm... a little uncomfortable with the idea, which surprises me, since I am not one who thinks of myself as particularly anonymous online and I consciously watch what I say because of that.

Though thinking about it some more, it's just a few more lurkers, right? I mean, this isn't going to be Immortalized Publically For All Time, and I don't worry about the other three hundred random people I've never "met" reading this right now.


Miracleman - Jan 13, 2004 6:52:27 am PST #6479 of 10005
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I think this is a fantuwondrous idea!

So long as we find a workingish strategery for optifying out, if individupersons so desire.

I vote affirmsolutely!


erinaceous - Jan 13, 2004 6:56:46 am PST #6480 of 10005
A fellow makes himself conspicuous when he throws soft-boiled eggs at the electric fan.

I heard back from one of the organizers, and it looks like there would need to be a specific opt-in. So I would say the board as a whole would have to approve the general idea (because we are, of course, a COMMUNITY, and the idea of somebody saying "I'm gonna take my posts and put them over here" all cowboy-like doesn't appeal to me), but then each individual person who wants their posts in the corpus would have to send me permission. Whether that means just an email or signing a form, I dunno yet.

For simplicity's sake, I would think people would have to say either a blanket yes or a blanket no to having their posts used. I don't know if I could deal with people who said okay for one thread but not another -- it could get really complicated, really fast.

I also said that I would do the pre-processing to remove the posts of people who didn't opt in, so that no NonBuffista eyes would ever see material that wasn't specifically okayed for inclusion. Let's hope my mad perl skillz are up to the challenge. (Luckily, the html on the threadsuck is really well done. Props to the Stompies!)


brenda m - Jan 13, 2004 6:59:38 am PST #6481 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

For simplicity's sake, I would think people would have to say either a blanket yes or a blanket no to having their posts used.

Sounds good to me, I love this idea.

Another question - is there a time period for this? Or more of a perpetuity thing?


Wolfram - Jan 13, 2004 7:01:36 am PST #6482 of 10005
Visilurking

Whether that means just an email or signing a form, I dunno yet.

I think all you would need is a "post" from each member who wishes to opt in, which would tend to authenticate that the poster who gave authority was the same poster who made the original post. If that made any sense.

And FTR, I think it's a great idea.


Steph L. - Jan 13, 2004 7:02:19 am PST #6483 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I also said that I would do the pre-processing to remove the posts of people who didn't opt in, so that no NonBuffista eyes would ever see material that wasn't specifically okayed for inclusion.

Woman, you rule.

So, should we take this discussion to Lightbulbs, so as to not clog up Bureaucracy?


Lyra Jane - Jan 13, 2004 7:07:03 am PST #6484 of 10005
Up with the sun

I think all you would need is a "post" from each member who wishes to opt in, which would tend to authenticate that the poster who gave authority was the same poster who made the original post. If that made any sense

True. The advantage of email I can see is that it wouldn't clog up a thread. It might also be seen as more of a guarantee that the writer understood what s/he was signing up for if there was ever a question.