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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2003 7:20:40 am PST #6320 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

By "this sort of situation" I mean where someone went off the rails and then tells us that they're back on.

No, she didn't ask (which just makes her seem more sincere to me personally), but she was a enthusiastic part of the community when she in good shape and it seems like a nice thing to do.


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2003 7:21:40 am PST #6321 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Personally, I think it's not worth it.

Imagine the debate about defining "rails" and being on and off them. And then we get into doctor's notes.


Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2003 7:23:35 am PST #6322 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Imagine the debate about defining "rails" and being on and off them. And then we get into doctor's notes.

Hee!

I'm just tossing it out there-- spirit of the season and all that.


Steph L. - Dec 22, 2003 7:41:00 am PST #6323 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Good for Zoe's mental health.

I cannot express how strongly I think that, since she didn't ask to be reinstated, we just leave it alone. Please.

she was a enthusiastic part of the community when she in good shape

She never was in good shape, IIRC. I mean, while she posted here.


Lyra Jane - Dec 22, 2003 7:43:33 am PST #6324 of 10005
Up with the sun

And maybe we could come up with some sort of probationary reactivation of an account policy for this sort of situation...

Absolutely not, at least not now. I'm sorry Zoe was having problems and I'm glad she's feeling better, and I think we should send her a message saying as much. But reinstating one banned poster would make it much harder to keep up the policy that bannings are permanent.


Cindy - Dec 22, 2003 7:46:03 am PST #6325 of 10005
Nobody

I'm glad she's doing better. I was thinking about her when we were planning to be at PF.

I think Beverly has the right idea.


Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2003 7:50:55 am PST #6326 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

But reinstating one banned poster would make it much harder to keep up the policy that bannings are permanent.

Yep.

A few of us have never been comfortable with permanant exclusion. Someone who was ill and now has their situation under control is a good example of why.


Consuela - Dec 22, 2003 8:20:31 am PST #6327 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, lordie. I'm really reluctant to get back into this right now. It's the holidays and all.

Can it be moot until someone who is banned for an extended period of time brings it up? Please?


Beverly - Dec 22, 2003 8:33:20 am PST #6328 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm with 'Suela. Personally, right nowI'm too tired and frazzled to deal with this, even hypothetically. Especially since no one has actually asked to be reinstated.


Lyra Jane - Dec 22, 2003 8:53:06 am PST #6329 of 10005
Up with the sun

Someone who was ill and now has their situation under control is a good example of why.

My problem with that is that there is no way to prove someone had been ill, short of demanding doctor's notes. Which seems just a tad extreme. And it seems almost insulting to the posters on this board who have remained civil through cancer, divorce, miscarriage and severe depression to say someone else who deals with those things by lashing out at the board should get a free pass if they promise to play nice.

To me, whether bannings should be permanent is a different question than whether we should invite Zoe back. I guess my vote would go yes on allowing any and all banned posters back after a year, no on making case-by-case exceptions.