Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Elena - Aug 20, 2003 7:41:47 pm PDT #4431 of 10005
Thanks for all the fish.

Starting Friday the deathmatches will be suspended for two weeks. That'll be a good way of seeing how much damage they are doing.


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2003 7:47:50 pm PDT #4432 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Here's a quick answer to some of the questions (I'm wading through documenting the SQL, and what a dumb idea that was -- I should just toss it at y'all volunteers (and then run away in shame)).

Posting takes more resources than not posting, but really, the time spent composing the post when you could have been hitting refreshrefreshrefresh probably evens things out a bit.

The smaller any table is, the quicker any SQL operation is, so the less time any given connection involving it is open. Less concurrency, then.

I adore Kyan, still.

You can't kill Natter. I don't think it'll work. I suspect, shoudl you try and kill Bitches, Bitches will kill y'all.

let's research who the chattiest people are and just ban them.

Dare you.


Noumenon - Aug 20, 2003 7:50:23 pm PDT #4433 of 10005
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Should we be announcing some of this "how to conserve board resources" over in Press? Because I had no idea until today that leaving the message center up was a problem, nor that it would be better if I meara'ed, nor that I should set my posts per page count higher.

I don't think these things don't make a lot of difference. They're like writing on both sides of your Post-It notes to conserve resources, while some bug is causing your printer to print 24-7. I wouldn't want people to feel guilty for not doing them. As with conservation, what will work is changing the system, not asking people to go against the flow.


Trudy Booth - Aug 20, 2003 7:53:49 pm PDT #4434 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

. Can we just disable the automatic refresh alltogether for now?

Yes, this.


Allyson - Aug 20, 2003 7:53:58 pm PDT #4435 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Dare you.

Triple dog dare?

At the Bronze, to conserve bandwidth for people with slow connections, there was a huge effort put forth to stamp out wasteful posts. A post with just a shout out, put on the board five or six times, was contentless. Numberslutting was a waste of valuable board space. Four posts per hour was the rule (which wouldn't work in a non-linear format, but hey, if you've got nothing funny to say, go pitch to Leno).

Some of these things, "Timelies all! I'm here to poke the thread!" can be discouraged. Getting the word out? Hard. We'd need to put a bigass banner on the page explaining the sitch, and asking folks to curb their refreshes, at the least.


Liese S. - Aug 20, 2003 7:57:33 pm PDT #4436 of 10005
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Go ahead and toss, ita. We won't mind. We can slog and you can slog and we can all slog together.


Noumenon - Aug 20, 2003 8:15:28 pm PDT #4437 of 10005
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

there was a huge effort put forth to stamp out wasteful posts. A post with just a shout out, put on the board five or six times, was contentless. Numberslutting was a waste of valuable board space.

I would guess that changing the system to allow only four posts per hour had a much greater effect than encouraging people not to do these things.


Trudy Booth - Aug 20, 2003 8:18:44 pm PDT #4438 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Well, we tend to have good manners.

I think if we asked (prominently) to eliminate certain things people would do so readily. It would be like spoiler policy-- everyone knows it and newbies occasionally need to be told.


scrappy - Aug 20, 2003 8:25:56 pm PDT #4439 of 10005
Nobody

I agree with Trudy on this. I think Buffistas value the board enough that they would be willing to think harder before posting and give up or consolidate some threads.


DCJensen - Aug 20, 2003 8:29:09 pm PDT #4440 of 10005
All is well that ends in pizza.

How about adding a note where Autorefresh was?

"We're sorry, autorefresh has been disabled for further study. Please move your mouse in an upward direction and select refresh/reload in your browser when a refresh is desired. Thank you - Buffista board admins."

or

"Auto Refresh is currently disabled. Thank you - Buffista board admins."