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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Allyson - Aug 20, 2003 7:53:58 pm PDT #4435 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Dare you.

Triple dog dare?

At the Bronze, to conserve bandwidth for people with slow connections, there was a huge effort put forth to stamp out wasteful posts. A post with just a shout out, put on the board five or six times, was contentless. Numberslutting was a waste of valuable board space. Four posts per hour was the rule (which wouldn't work in a non-linear format, but hey, if you've got nothing funny to say, go pitch to Leno).

Some of these things, "Timelies all! I'm here to poke the thread!" can be discouraged. Getting the word out? Hard. We'd need to put a bigass banner on the page explaining the sitch, and asking folks to curb their refreshes, at the least.


Liese S. - Aug 20, 2003 7:57:33 pm PDT #4436 of 10005
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Go ahead and toss, ita. We won't mind. We can slog and you can slog and we can all slog together.


Noumenon - Aug 20, 2003 8:15:28 pm PDT #4437 of 10005
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

there was a huge effort put forth to stamp out wasteful posts. A post with just a shout out, put on the board five or six times, was contentless. Numberslutting was a waste of valuable board space.

I would guess that changing the system to allow only four posts per hour had a much greater effect than encouraging people not to do these things.


Trudy Booth - Aug 20, 2003 8:18:44 pm PDT #4438 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Well, we tend to have good manners.

I think if we asked (prominently) to eliminate certain things people would do so readily. It would be like spoiler policy-- everyone knows it and newbies occasionally need to be told.


scrappy - Aug 20, 2003 8:25:56 pm PDT #4439 of 10005
Nobody

I agree with Trudy on this. I think Buffistas value the board enough that they would be willing to think harder before posting and give up or consolidate some threads.


DCJensen - Aug 20, 2003 8:29:09 pm PDT #4440 of 10005
All is well that ends in pizza.

How about adding a note where Autorefresh was?

"We're sorry, autorefresh has been disabled for further study. Please move your mouse in an upward direction and select refresh/reload in your browser when a refresh is desired. Thank you - Buffista board admins."

or

"Auto Refresh is currently disabled. Thank you - Buffista board admins."


Trudy Booth - Aug 20, 2003 8:29:48 pm PDT #4441 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Nilly can put "please e-mail your congratulations" on her announcements for a while, for example.

Scrappy is Wise and big hugs could go back chanel as well.


Lee - Aug 20, 2003 8:34:26 pm PDT #4442 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I've been thinking about things I do that could be adding to the problem, and I came up with two other suggestions I think might help lighten the load.

a) don't post just to tell people "insent".

b) don't make plans on the board to see people local to you.

I know that there are times when doing one or the other is going to be necessary, but if we encourage people not to do it unless they need to, it would lighten the load.


Cindy - Aug 20, 2003 11:48:25 pm PDT #4443 of 10005
Nobody

there was a huge effort put forth to stamp out wasteful posts. A post with just a shout out, put on the board five or six times, was contentless. Numberslutting was a waste of valuable board space.

I would guess that changing the system to allow only four posts per hour had a much greater effect than encouraging people not to do these things.

At the actual!Bronze (not the Beta) - 4 posts per hour was completely user regulated. The admins. put it in the rules, but there was no code that prevented you from posting every two minutes. Instead, there were warrior!bitches who took care of that.

Just a few words in support of Movies and Music, because they've taken some spanking in this thread...

The movie thread has had 6954 posts since February 20th. Music has had 5517 posts since January 3rd. They are not huge drains on us. And I say that as someone who does not post there, and does post in the two resource-sucking threads (Natter and Bitches).

Although? What ita said about taking away Bitches.

Question about auto-refresh:

Do any tech-shaped people know, when the board does auto-refresh, does it count the X minutes on its own clock, or base it on exact seconds/minutes the user has been on the page? What I'm asking is, if it knows JoeSchmoe loaded Message Center at 3:23 and 24 seconds, and JoeSchmoe's refresh is set for 10 minutes, does it refresh for JoeSchmoe at 3:33 and 24 seconds, or just at 3:33? If it just rounds to the minute, and if enough users have their refresh set to the same amount of time, then that could account for a lot of the my sql connections being open at the same time.

If we don't/can't know, maybe we should completely disable auto-refresh and see what it does. The chance that 100 users will manually refresh at the exact same time is way lower, than that the board is refreshing them all at the same time.


Noumenon - Aug 21, 2003 12:04:50 am PDT #4444 of 10005
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

there was no code that prevented you from posting every two minutes.

Okay, I guess I am wrong about what you can accomplish by appeals to the community. I can't believe that worked. Didn't the warrior bitches get tired of using all their four posts on community standards?