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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Cindy - Aug 19, 2003 6:14:19 am PDT #4188 of 10005
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Also, Cindy, I agree with many of your suggestions but not the Firefly stuff. The DVDs are coming out in December. There will be much revisiting of episodes and quotey goodness. We'll also need a policy on discussion of the commentaries (maybe put that in spoilers? Or put it in the main thread but not until January? I dunno). Between the DVDs and a possible movie, I don't think consolidation of those three threads is a good idea just yet.

That's not what I proposed. First of all, i didn't propose anything. Secondly, I just said I think it's stupid to call "Firefly Spoilers" a spoilers thread.

I think we should keep Firefly NAFDA.

I think we should just rename the FF spoilers thread.

I do think all the quotables should be combined, because we're not letting people have threads they want because we fear proliferation, and yet we break out 3 separate threads for quotes, for three separate shows, written by - more or less - the same stable of writers - and two of those shows are dead.


DXMachina - Aug 19, 2003 6:15:58 am PDT #4189 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Have we gotten any feedback from our host (regarding how much (whatever it is we were over-using)? Are we doing better?

There hasn't been any feedback that I'm aware of. Right now, I think Kristen is still trying to work out the remaining issues from the server switch.


amych - Aug 19, 2003 6:16:00 am PDT #4190 of 10005
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Traffic isn't the issue, but in any case thread consolidation will only lower traffic.

I know. It's more a feeling that, while we're getting a read on how well the fixes have worked, we should change as little as possible.


Cindy - Aug 19, 2003 6:19:08 am PDT #4191 of 10005
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There hasn't been any feedback that I'm aware of. Right now, I think Kristen is still trying to work out the remaining issues from the server switch.

When that's settled, maybe we should ask them. With HostSuckIt, we just went along like everything was fine, because it felt fine, and it wasn't fine and they'd suspend us. Maybe we need an ongoing discussion with our new host, until we know we're operating at a good level for our current server situation, or until it becomes plain we need our own. I think fundraising is always good. We could start the requests now, anyhow, and note we may need a dedicated server. But we should probably find out how we're doing, and not assume it's okay because it's seemed okay.


Lyra Jane - Aug 19, 2003 6:22:11 am PDT #4192 of 10005
Up with the sun

I know this is a stupid question, but oh well:

If traffic is not the problem, what is? Is there, in fact, a technical argument against thread proliferation or reorganization? I feel like we (the non-techy we) have sort of gotten the idea that we can't have too many threads because the increased post volume will crash the database; is this the case, or not?

Thanks.

(And I disagree that we should put off reorgs until October, barring a technical reason to do so. It makes more sense to me to figure it out during the summer, before we start dealing with the start-of-season post swell. Besides, we're most likely talking about a net loss of threads, not a net gain.)


Kristen - Aug 19, 2003 6:22:12 am PDT #4193 of 10005

When that's settled, maybe we should ask them.

We've already been discussing this issue. Unfortunately, it had to be temporarily shelved by post-move issues on both sides of the equations.

When I have some answers, I will posting in Board.


Cindy - Aug 19, 2003 6:23:45 am PDT #4194 of 10005
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Kristen - I know you're working your tushie off, and want that stated for the record. I hope that didn't come off like I think you're a slacker. To the contrary, I just want to make sure we're thinking of things, and not leaving it all up to you, to cross every t and dot every i.

(typo edit)


Jon B. - Aug 19, 2003 6:25:43 am PDT #4195 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That's not what I proposed. First of all, i didn't propose anything.

Uhhh... I didn't say you did....

You wrote:

We have - is it 13? - episodes. We have 3 threads devoted to those 13? episodes.

I took that (and your subsequent paragraphs) to imply that you thought 3 threads was too many. Apologies if I misunderstood.


Cindy - Aug 19, 2003 6:30:03 am PDT #4196 of 10005
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That's not what I proposed. First of all, i didn't propose anything.

Uhhh... I didn't say you did....

I was correcting myself - sorry that didn't come through. I said 'that's not what I proposed' and then I realized I had made a deal over not-proposing, and so I was ragging on myself there.

I took that (and your subsequent paragraphs) to imply that you thought 3 threads was too many. Apologies if I misunderstood.

Well, I do. I do think the "quotables" should all be combined, and so I do think we can do with 2 FF threads, rather than three. The "FF Spoilers" name just itches me, and I see potential trouble, if/when there ever are movie spoilers, because not all the UK people are going to want to read those, but apparently, that's just me. So I'll be shutting up about it now.


Jon B. - Aug 19, 2003 6:32:57 am PDT #4197 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I understand the movie spoiler concern. However, I suspect that by the time there are any movie spoilers to share, the DVDs will have been out for some time so that the only spoilers left will be movie-related ones.