I vote for a hybrid title - Tim Minear is a Fluffy Bunny: Wonder Falls 1 Body Count 0.

And although I think Jon was mostly joking, updating would be spoilery, much as I love the idea.

Can we white font a thread title? grins

Actually, thinking about that, I mean that semi-seriously - you have to look at the white font to see what the body count is up to.

I have a genuine question. People have written that the FAQ isn't - or shouldn't - be covered by the grandfather clause, and that since the spoiler code <more of a guideline, really - Barbosa> is in the FAQ means it isn't granderfatherable.

I'm not sure that's what has been written. Some people have written that grandfatherable issues (whether they're in the FAQ, slugs, whatever) are ones issues that were came up pre-vote, just like issues covered by the moratorium are issues that were voted on.

Please, someone. Show me where we defined the cast of regulars on any series we watch as spoilers. We have always talked freely about the shows regular characters in between the seasons. We haven't allowed news like 'Tom Lenk will be returning as Andrew in episode X,' - and aren't trying to get it allowed now, but we've never defined the regular cast of actors as a spoiler - so how could it be covered by the spoiler policy?

Is the spoiler stuff policy because it is in the FAQ? Or is it in the FAQ because it's policy?

I think the second - you have a FAQ to answer frequently asked questions about policy, but I still don't personally see how that as what is at issue here, either way. Last summer, I could talk about the regular characters on the show.

We haven't allowed news like 'Tom Lenk will be returning as Andrew in episode X,' - and aren't trying to get it allowed now, but we've never defined the regular cast of actors as a spoiler - so how could it be covered by the spoiler policy?

OK, now I'm thinking that the spoiler I thought we were talking about isn't the one we're actually talking about, and I'm confused. (I'd only heard one spoiler for this season, so I assumed that's the one everybody else heard, too, but this makes me think that it's something else.) So I guess I'm not sure what my opinion is, since I'm not even sure what we're discussing anymore.

Hil, although it's nigh impossible, I don't think we should be thinking (so much) of a specific spoiler -- just of the principle of cast of the upcoming season.

Trying to synthesize all the Tim thread ideas.

Fluffy Bunny Minearverse: Wonder Falls 1, Body Count 0

I'm all about the fluffy bunnies.

Please, someone. Show me where we defined the cast of regulars on any series we watch as spoilers.

When we set up Spoilers Lite in order for people to discuss casting. Yes, there have been exceptions made in the past. Those went one of two ways - either there was discussion allowed or we designated another space. But I think that saying we never considered casting to be spoilery, even over the summer, is as much hyperbole as saying we always did, no exceptions. The issue of casting, even summer casting, has come up before. Aside from that, the wording of the spoiler policy has been revised at least twice since we left TT.

We're hampered in this discussion by not having full access to our threads at WX, which complicates matters. I don't know, for instance, what specific issues prompted the establishment of the Spoilers Lite threads, or what matters were specifically discussed at that time.

You can say that the current case ought to be an exception. At this point, seeing how important it is to people on the board, I'm inclined to agree. But please don't say none of us ever had any input into how the spoiler policy was devised, or that this subject has never come up before, because it's not true.

ETA:

My understanding is that we decided on two threads - one Wonder Falls and one All Tim, All the Time.

My understanding is that we decided on two threads - one Wonder Falls and one All Tim, All the Time.

I think the proposal was pretty specifically about A thread not two threads. It should be in Lightbulbs just before this issue came up.

My understanding is that we decided on two threads - one Wonder Falls and one All Tim, All the Time.

I think the proposal was pretty specifically about A thread not two threads. It should be in Lightbulbs just before this issue came up.

See voting results here.

Also, hasn't it been four days of discussion already? When is the ballot scheduled to be up for the spoiler issue?

But I think that saying we never considered casting to be spoilery, even over the summer, is as much hyperbole as saying we always did, no exceptions.

Brenda, I think you're right. I was relatively clue-free about Dawn, but knew all about the addition of Gunn and the subtraction of Giles. Mostly, I think that it was murkily "decided" on a case-by-case basis.

Right. One Minear thread. If there's to be a Wonder Falls thread, we'll need to propose it. Till then, the Minear thread (once created) can be a home base.

Right. One Minear thread. If there's to be a Wonder Falls thread, we'll need to propose it. Till then, the Minear thread (once created) can be a home base.

Okey-doke. My memory was faulty on this one but looking back at the posts just got me more confused. Sigh.